Xen users - May 2010 - unistalling gplpv from win7x64 gives BSOD

I have installed the 210 gplpv (debug), when I try to update them with
current gplpv I get a BSOD even so when I try to uninstall them.
Now I have made a bootentry that specifies NOGPLPV, what gives me a
bootable system after such a crash, I found (uninstalling the leftover
driver packages after getting bsod during uninstall of the main package)
that uninstalling the net driver leads to bsod. Now I booted in safe
mode (nogplpv) and uninstalled the disabled networkinterface in hardware
manager.

Is there a more convenient workflow to uninstall/update the gplpv drivers?

Thx,
Florian



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Am 27.05.2010 11:02, schrieb Florian Manschwetus:
> I have installed the 210 gplpv (debug), when I try to update them with
> current gplpv I get a BSOD even so when I try to uninstall them.
> Now I have made a bootentry that specifies NOGPLPV, what gives me a
> bootable system after such a crash, I found (uninstalling the leftover
> driver packages after getting bsod during uninstall of the main package)
> that uninstalling the net driver leads to bsod. Now I booted in safe
> mode (nogplpv) and uninstalled the disabled networkinterface in hardware
> manager.
> 
> Is there a more convenient workflow to uninstall/update the gplpv drivers?
> 
> Thx,
> Florian
Ok, I managed to uninstall the other two leftover driver (pci and
pvusb), the system is unbootable unless nogplpv is set.
Booting normal mode with nogplpv boots the machine, but I''m unable to
uninstall the net driver package, he complains that it is used,
confirming to uninstall anyway does nothing (driverpackage is still there)

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On Thu, May 27, 2010 at 4:18 PM, Florian Manschwetus
<florianmanschwetus@gmx.de> wrote:
> Ok, I managed to uninstall the other two leftover driver (pci and
> pvusb), the system is unbootable unless nogplpv is set.
What I did with 0.11.x:
- get http://www.meadowcourt.org/downloads/gplpv_uninstall_bat.zip
- boot with NOGPLPV
- use 0.10.x uninstaller
- reboot

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Am 27.05.2010 11:23, schrieb Fajar A. Nugraha:
> On Thu, May 27, 2010 at 4:18 PM, Florian Manschwetus
> <florianmanschwetus@gmx.de> wrote:
>> Ok, I managed to uninstall the other two leftover driver (pci and
>> pvusb), the system is unbootable unless nogplpv is set.
> 
> What I did with 0.11.x:
> - get http://www.meadowcourt.org/downloads/gplpv_uninstall_bat.zip
> - boot with NOGPLPV
> - use 0.10.x uninstaller
> - reboot
> 
Ok, now the system boots without nogplpv, but the net driver package
still is uninstallable.

Thx so far,
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On Thu, May 27, 2010 at 4:35 PM, Florian Manschwetus
<florianmanschwetus@gmx.de> wrote:
> Am 27.05.2010 11:23, schrieb Fajar A. Nugraha:
>> What I did with 0.11.x:
>> - get http://www.meadowcourt.org/downloads/gplpv_uninstall_bat.zip
>> - boot with NOGPLPV
>> - use 0.10.x uninstaller
>> - reboot
>>
> Ok, now the system boots without nogplpv, but the net driver package
> still is uninstallable.

Odd. XenNet should depend on Xen PCI. If there''s no driver for XenPCI,
there shouldn''t even be a XenNet device. How did you determine that
it''s "uninstallable"? Which NIC does WIndows currently use,
realtek/QEMU or XenNet?

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Am 27.05.2010 11:42, schrieb Fajar A. Nugraha:
> On Thu, May 27, 2010 at 4:35 PM, Florian Manschwetus
> <florianmanschwetus@gmx.de> wrote:
>> Am 27.05.2010 11:23, schrieb Fajar A. Nugraha:
>>> What I did with 0.11.x:
>>> - get http://www.meadowcourt.org/downloads/gplpv_uninstall_bat.zip
>>> - boot with NOGPLPV
>>> - use 0.10.x uninstaller
>>> - reboot
>>>
>> Ok, now the system boots without nogplpv, but the net driver package
>> still is uninstallable.
> 
> 
> Odd. XenNet should depend on Xen PCI. If there''s no driver for
XenPCI,
> there shouldn''t even be a XenNet device. How did you determine
that
> it''s "uninstallable"? Which NIC does WIndows currently
use,
> realtek/QEMU or XenNet?
> 
The net device in devicemanager is gone of course.
But the driverpackage in programs etc is uninstallable (click uninstall,
confirm uninstall anyway, nothing happens)
But before installing the newer version I would like to get rid of all
of this.

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Am 27.05.2010 11:46, schrieb Florian Manschwetus:
> Am 27.05.2010 11:42, schrieb Fajar A. Nugraha:
>> On Thu, May 27, 2010 at 4:35 PM, Florian Manschwetus
>> <florianmanschwetus@gmx.de> wrote:
>>> Am 27.05.2010 11:23, schrieb Fajar A. Nugraha:
>>>> What I did with 0.11.x:
>>>> - get
http://www.meadowcourt.org/downloads/gplpv_uninstall_bat.zip
>>>> - boot with NOGPLPV
>>>> - use 0.10.x uninstaller
>>>> - reboot
>>>>
>>> Ok, now the system boots without nogplpv, but the net driver
package
>>> still is uninstallable.
>>
>>
>> Odd. XenNet should depend on Xen PCI. If there''s no driver for
XenPCI,
>> there shouldn''t even be a XenNet device. How did you determine
that
>> it''s "uninstallable"? Which NIC does WIndows
currently use,
>> realtek/QEMU or XenNet?
>>
> The net device in devicemanager is gone of course.
> But the driverpackage in programs etc is uninstallable (click uninstall,
> confirm uninstall anyway, nothing happens)
> But before installing the newer version I would like to get rid of all
> of this.
> 
> Florian
Even more evil, is that I have tried to install the newer version,
resulting in having now two ununinstallable xen net driver packages
installed. I need some help here, I have no ideas left.

Florian



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> 
> Am 27.05.2010 11:46, schrieb Florian Manschwetus:
> > Am 27.05.2010 11:42, schrieb Fajar A. Nugraha:
> >> On Thu, May 27, 2010 at 4:35 PM, Florian Manschwetus
> >> <florianmanschwetus@gmx.de> wrote:
> >>> Am 27.05.2010 11:23, schrieb Fajar A. Nugraha:
> >>>> What I did with 0.11.x:
> >>>> - get
http://www.meadowcourt.org/downloads/gplpv_uninstall_bat.zip
> >>>> - boot with NOGPLPV
> >>>> - use 0.10.x uninstaller
> >>>> - reboot
> >>>>
> >>> Ok, now the system boots without nogplpv, but the net driver
package
> >>> still is uninstallable.
> >>
> >>
> >> Odd. XenNet should depend on Xen PCI. If there''s no
driver for
XenPCI,
> >> there shouldn''t even be a XenNet device. How did you
determine that
> >> it''s "uninstallable"? Which NIC does WIndows
currently use,
> >> realtek/QEMU or XenNet?
> >>
> > The net device in devicemanager is gone of course.
> > But the driverpackage in programs etc is uninstallable (click
uninstall,
> > confirm uninstall anyway, nothing happens)
> > But before installing the newer version I would like to get rid of
all
> > of this.
> >
> > Florian
> 
> Even more evil, is that I have tried to install the newer version,
> resulting in having now two ununinstallable xen net driver packages
> installed. I need some help here, I have no ideas left.
> 
Did you run the uninstall bat file? That''s a measure of last resort but
it sounds like you are there. If you''ve already done that it might make
the driver packages harder to uninstall.

Windows tries to be smart and prevents you removing a driver that it
thinks is critical to the system, eg because you booted off it. It
can''t
know that if you uninstall GPLPV and reboot then things will still be
okay.

Having the driver packages there, while messy, won''t actually hurt
things. You can remove them from the registry directly if you really
want to.

James


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Am 28.05.2010 14:36, schrieb James Harper:
>>
>> Am 27.05.2010 11:46, schrieb Florian Manschwetus:
>>> Am 27.05.2010 11:42, schrieb Fajar A. Nugraha:
>>>> On Thu, May 27, 2010 at 4:35 PM, Florian Manschwetus
>>>> <florianmanschwetus@gmx.de> wrote:
>>>>> Am 27.05.2010 11:23, schrieb Fajar A. Nugraha:
>>>>>> What I did with 0.11.x:
>>>>>> - get
> http://www.meadowcourt.org/downloads/gplpv_uninstall_bat.zip
>>>>>> - boot with NOGPLPV
>>>>>> - use 0.10.x uninstaller
>>>>>> - reboot
>>>>>>
>>>>> Ok, now the system boots without nogplpv, but the net
driver
> package
>>>>> still is uninstallable.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Odd. XenNet should depend on Xen PCI. If there''s no
driver for
> XenPCI,
>>>> there shouldn''t even be a XenNet device. How did you
determine that
>>>> it''s "uninstallable"? Which NIC does WIndows
currently use,
>>>> realtek/QEMU or XenNet?
>>>>
>>> The net device in devicemanager is gone of course.
>>> But the driverpackage in programs etc is uninstallable (click
> uninstall,
>>> confirm uninstall anyway, nothing happens)
>>> But before installing the newer version I would like to get rid of
> all
>>> of this.
>>>
>>> Florian
>>
>> Even more evil, is that I have tried to install the newer version,
>> resulting in having now two ununinstallable xen net driver packages
>> installed. I need some help here, I have no ideas left.
>>
> 
> Did you run the uninstall bat file? That''s a measure of last
resort but
> it sounds like you are there. If you''ve already done that it might
make
> the driver packages harder to uninstall.
> 
> Windows tries to be smart and prevents you removing a driver that it
> thinks is critical to the system, eg because you booted off it. It
can''t
> know that if you uninstall GPLPV and reboot then things will still be
> okay.
> 
> Having the driver packages there, while messy, won''t actually hurt
> things. You can remove them from the registry directly if you really
> want to.
> 
> James

The problem is that those prevent me from installing a newer version of
the drivers. So removing them completely seems to be the only way, to
get out of it.

Florian



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On Fri, May 28, 2010 at 8:20 PM, Florian Manschwetus
<florianmanschwetus@gmx.de> wrote:
>>> Even more evil, is that I have tried to install the newer version,
>>> resulting in having now two ununinstallable xen net driver packages
>>> installed. I need some help here, I have no ideas left.
>>>
>>
>> Having the driver packages there, while messy, won''t actually
hurt
>> things. You can remove them from the registry directly if you really
>> want to.
>>
>> James
>
>
> The problem is that those prevent me from installing a newer version of
> the drivers. So removing them completely seems to be the only way, to
> get out of it.
Are you sure that it prevents you from installing newer version? I''ve
used bat uninstaller several times, and install a newer (or in some
cases, downgrade) the drivers, and it works fine.

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The common mistake that I made myself was not booting with /nogplpv
before attempting to remove it. Once I did that, things went much
smoother.
Just my 2 cents.

- chris

On Sun, May 30, 2010 at 9:51 PM, Fajar A. Nugraha <fajar@fajar.net>
wrote:
> On Fri, May 28, 2010 at 8:20 PM, Florian Manschwetus
> <florianmanschwetus@gmx.de> wrote:
>>>> Even more evil, is that I have tried to install the newer
version,
>>>> resulting in having now two ununinstallable xen net driver
packages
>>>> installed. I need some help here, I have no ideas left.
>>>>
>>>
>
>>> Having the driver packages there, while messy, won''t
actually hurt
>>> things. You can remove them from the registry directly if you
really
>>> want to.
>>>
>>> James
>>
>>
>> The problem is that those prevent me from installing a newer version of
>> the drivers. So removing them completely seems to be the only way, to
>> get out of it.
>
> Are you sure that it prevents you from installing newer version?
I''ve
> used bat uninstaller several times, and install a newer (or in some
> cases, downgrade) the drivers, and it works fine.
>
> --
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Am 31.05.2010 04:26, schrieb chris:
> The common mistake that I made myself was not booting with /nogplpv
> before attempting to remove it. Once I did that, things went much
> smoother.
> Just my 2 cents.
Yes I booted to nogplpv and got the too, some times, no idea why, also
uninstalling the driverpackage was blocked due used by sth
> 
> - chris
> 
> On Sun, May 30, 2010 at 9:51 PM, Fajar A. Nugraha <fajar@fajar.net>
wrote:
>> On Fri, May 28, 2010 at 8:20 PM, Florian Manschwetus
>>> The problem is that those prevent me from installing a newer
version of
>>> the drivers. So removing them completely seems to be the only way,
to
>>> get out of it.
>>
>> Are you sure that it prevents you from installing newer version?
I''ve
>> used bat uninstaller several times, and install a newer (or in some
>> cases, downgrade) the drivers, and it works fine.
>>
>> --
>> Fajar
>>
Yes, due to the problem that it seems to hang on installing the newer
net-driverpackage.

But, after manual system cleanup (nogplpv + safemode). I was able to
install the newer version flawlessly.


Florian



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