wine users - Aug 2010 - Re: OT: Xranr support for MacOSX {was: Wine Window not Maximizin

The place to put this information is the MacOSX wiki page, which looks to be
sorely in need of updating. An experienced Mac user needs to do it. 
http://wiki.winehq.org/MacOSX

James Mckenzie wrote:
> 
> If this were a Wine project problem, I would say, let's fix it.  It is
not, it is an X11/video driver problem.  I have an IBM Thinkpad, with an ATI
chip, same manufacturer as the chip in my MacBookPro.  It could do screen
resizing in the late 1990s.  Actual screen size 1600x1200, I routinely displayed
640x480 on the screen, even in Linux.

I'm not sure what resizing is missing.  The only window resizing that should
not work, because its not supposed to as far as I know, is when you run a
virtual desktop, Wine isn't telling X11 that its not allowed to resize, and
you can resize your virtual desktop windows, but its just garbage it the extra
space.  I've run several programs that actually run in a window without a
virtual desktop, and they resize just fine like they are supposed to.... but
then again I haven't used Apple X11 in years, I stick to the latest Xquartz
builds.


James Mckenzie wrote:
> 
> At the wrath of Vitaly and others, please keep us up to date on this.  I
don't normally run Alpha level code on my system, but if it is possible to
'back level' to 2.5.1, I will try and grab this package over the weekend
(as well as update my local git) at an Internet Cafe.  Progress on Xranr is very
important to providing fullscreen capabilities as well as frameless windows in
X.  Hopefully, we will see much progress and a much earlier release of 2.6
because there are other features that MacOSX X11 needs.
> 
if you install the actual installer version of the alpha for 10.6 it installs to
/opt/X11, so it will only replace Xquartz and not touch Apple's X11, or
Macports Xquartz installs.  This makes it really easy to just trash it and go
back to like the 2.5.3 release.  I prefer running things through Macports...
heck I use it to build almost everything for Wineskin, though a few things i use
my own local repo portfiles, but most comes stock from Macports.  I often
install multiple things and try different things... I keep multiple Macports
installs in different folders and just symlink /opt/local to the build I'm
currently using.


James Mckenzie wrote:
> 
> Thank you all for your patience and please forgive this long reply to
doh123's entry, but every Wine user should understand that Wine is not used
just on Linux, and that not every UNIX release has perfect X11 implementation. 
And no, we don't want to 'downgrade' to Linux.  We bought our Macs
for the fantastic interface and the fact that the operating system is UNIXy in
nature.

about 90% of Wine users automatically think Linux... everything is assume Linux
unless said otherwise.... maybe one day that will change.  Mac OS X is more than
UNIXy, it actually is UNIX certified, unlike Linux  :-P  While it doesn't
really mean much other than to irritate a few Linux lovers, its fun to tell them
OSX really is UNIX and Linux is just trying to be like UNIX.