wine users - Aug 2010 - OT: Xranr support for MacOSX {was: Wine Window not Maximizing in MacOSX}

Note:  This is somewhat related to Wine as fullscreen window support for X11
does not exist, at present, in the base X11 code.  Many folks have posted
threads asking why this is not so.

Bottom line:  Without good xrandr support, there will NEVER be true fullscreen
support nor the ability to open X11 sessions with sized windows without using
the virtual desktop.  This is sorely needed and bypassed by CrossOver, WineSkin
and several 'off brand' Wine builds that the Wine project does not and
cannot support.

doh123 <wineforum-user at winehq.org>
>Sent: Aug 20, 2010 12:19 AM
>To: wine-users at winehq.org
>Subject: [Wine]  Re: Wine window not maximizing in Mac OS X
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>There should be a way Wine could tell the window to not allow manual resize,
but it would probably be very OSX specific
>and not wanted in Wine source... I don't think its anything wrong with
X11 on Macs other than your not supposed to be able
>to do it, but X11 still lets you try because its not being told to disable
it.  If Wine tells the window to resize, it
>resizes just fine.... graphics scaling with window changes and not just
changing the resolution in the window would be
>cool, but I think that would be a major PITA to implement.
If this were a Wine project problem, I would say, let's fix it.  It is not,
it is an X11/video driver problem.  I have an IBM Thinkpad, with an ATI chip,
same manufacturer as the chip in my MacBookPro.  It could do screen resizing in
the late 1990s.  Actual screen size 1600x1200, I routinely displayed 640x480 on
the screen, even in Linux.
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>If you're looking for RANDR in Xquartz (to allow fullscreen and
resolution switching) look for Xquartz 2.6.0 out by the
>end of the year, or you can get alpha builds from the xorg-server-devel
install on Macports.  I have a few games I've been
>playing on Wine with it, and its actually coming along nicely, at least on
10.6, theres some bugs affecting earlier
>versions but they should be cleared up soon.
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At the wrath of Vitaly and others, please keep us up to date on this.  I
don't normally run Alpha level code on my system, but if it is possible to
'back level' to 2.5.1, I will try and grab this package over the weekend
(as well as update my local git) at an Internet Cafe.  Progress on Xranr is very
important to providing fullscreen capabilities as well as frameless windows in
X.  Hopefully, we will see much progress and a much earlier release of 2.6
because there are other features that MacOSX X11 needs.

I'll visit the forums this weekend as well and start a thread that I would
like to see made into a sticky that will explain and update this topic.  Again,
this is not a Wine problem, but it affects every MacOSX Wine user, myself
included.

Thank you all for your patience and please forgive this long reply to
doh123's entry, but every Wine user should understand that Wine is not used
just on Linux, and that not every UNIX release has perfect X11 implementation. 
And no, we don't want to 'downgrade' to Linux.  We bought our Macs
for the fantastic interface and the fact that the operating system is UNIXy in
nature.

James McKenzie
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