R help - May 2004 - Windows versus Unix packages in CRAN (Was Re: Rmetrics)

Prof Brian Ripley <ripley at stats.ox.ac.uk> wrote:
	mkdir fBasics
	unzip fBasics.zip -d fBasics
	rm fBasics/src/*.o
	R CMD check fBasics
	
	and that took me about 3 minutes.

Now me, I just did

	unzip -a fBasics_190.10051.zip
	R CMD INSTALL fBasics
	rm -rf fBasics

in a naive and trusting manner.  It took me considerably longer than 3
minutes to learn that this was what I should do, and when I did learn,
I wondered "if it's this simple, why can't R CMD INSTALL do
it?"

Now I discover that it isn't that simple.  The installation apparently
went smoothly.  This is R, right?  Never occurred to me that there might
be problems.

Now, B-G--R!  It turns out that core stuff is supplied as .dll files,
which of course my UltraSPARC can do nothing with.

The author of the Rmetrics code has a perfect right to provide his code
in any form he wants under any conditions he wants (subject to GPL &c).
In particular, if he wants to provide a distribution which only works under
Windows, that's perfectly OK.

**BUT** when a distribution is peculiar to one operating system, that really
should be highlighted in big bold letters:  this is a WINDOWS BINARY
version, so that people who can't use Windows .DLL files are spared a day
of trying to figure out how to unpack and of doing an installation which
reports no errors at all and of them finding that things do not work.

There is *NOTHING* on http://www.itp.phys.ethz.ch/econophysics/R/download.htm
that says "Windows only".  Click on "I accept"and the page
you arrive at has
nothing in the text anywhere that says "Windows only" or "what to
do if not
Windows".  (The http://.../R/bin/windows/contrib/1.9 address of the page
was, in retrospect, a big clue, sigh.)

	It would of course be nice if the developers had done
	
	R CMD check fBasics

But if you go into the Sources directory, which I suppose you must have,
for each of {fBasics,fExtremes,fOptions,fSeries} there is an
xxx-00check.log.txt, so they _did_ run R CMD check.

	and sorted out the errors, then
	R CMD build fBasics
	
Those same check logs show errors (like failure to build .dvi files).

Will it work if I download the Sources packages?

And it seems that this vicious circle continues forever. Before
posting these kind of messages can you please read the INSTRUCTIONS.
fBasics_190.10051.zip is a COMPILED version of the package, not
a source as you claim to be!

It works with no problems; well, at least under Linux.

Janusz.

"Richard A. O'Keefe" wrote:
> Prof Brian Ripley <ripley at stats.ox.ac.uk> wrote:
>         mkdir fBasics
>         unzip fBasics.zip -d fBasics
>         rm fBasics/src/*.o
>         R CMD check fBasics
>
>         and that took me about 3 minutes.
>
> Now me, I just did
>
>         unzip -a fBasics_190.10051.zip
>         R CMD INSTALL fBasics
>         rm -rf fBasics
>
> in a naive and trusting manner.  It took me considerably longer than 3
> minutes to learn that this was what I should do, and when I did learn,
> I wondered "if it's this simple, why can't R CMD INSTALL do
it?"
>
> Now I discover that it isn't that simple.  The installation apparently
> went smoothly.  This is R, right?  Never occurred to me that there might
> be problems.
>
> Now, B-G--R!  It turns out that core stuff is supplied as .dll files,
> which of course my UltraSPARC can do nothing with.
>
> The author of the Rmetrics code has a perfect right to provide his code
> in any form he wants under any conditions he wants (subject to GPL &c).
> In particular, if he wants to provide a distribution which only works under
> Windows, that's perfectly OK.
>
> **BUT** when a distribution is peculiar to one operating system, that
really
> should be highlighted in big bold letters:  this is a WINDOWS BINARY
> version, so that people who can't use Windows .DLL files are spared a
day
> of trying to figure out how to unpack and of doing an installation which
> reports no errors at all and of them finding that things do not work.
>
> There is *NOTHING* on
http://www.itp.phys.ethz.ch/econophysics/R/download.htm
> that says "Windows only".  Click on "I accept"and the
page you arrive at has
> nothing in the text anywhere that says "Windows only" or
"what to do if not
> Windows".  (The http://.../R/bin/windows/contrib/1.9 address of the
page
> was, in retrospect, a big clue, sigh.)
>
>         It would of course be nice if the developers had done
>
>         R CMD check fBasics
>
> But if you go into the Sources directory, which I suppose you must have,
> for each of {fBasics,fExtremes,fOptions,fSeries} there is an
> xxx-00check.log.txt, so they _did_ run R CMD check.
>
>         and sorted out the errors, then
>         R CMD build fBasics
>
> Those same check logs show errors (like failure to build .dvi files).
>
> Will it work if I download the Sources packages?
>
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