samba - Oct 2009 - Desiring to set up Windows Vista and Linux Fedora Core 4

Greetings!

     Tonight is unfortunately the first small bit of time I've had to even
try to get Samba configured between my Vista and my Linux FC4.  (My mother
as well as my extremely limited home time dealing with important things
are my main delays.)

     It's not going well.  :-)

     I have added hosts allow with 192.168.1 and 192.168.2.  I have
experimented with a few things.  I have looked at
http://forums.fedoraforum.org/showthread.php?t=2556 and even read
something about making the network communication in Vista be LM as well as
NTLM...

     Okay, let me ask one basic question at a time.

     I "was thinking" that I didn't have to actually mount samba
(smbmount) in the past, back years ago when I used it with VMWare and
Windows 98.  (I was thinking that the smdb/nmdb daemons just did what was
needed.)

     I will be fine if I just am able to submit a print job from the
Windows/Vista to the Linux HP9110 printer.  I will be fine if I just
transfer any files, either direction, by accessing my host filesystem via
Explorer in Windows.  (This is how I did it, years ago, with Windows 98 in
VMWare.)

     I am thinking that I do NOT need to add to /etc/fstab, or smbmount
anything from the Linux side.  Do you agree?

     Barry

Hi

2009/10/3 Barry L. Bond <bbond at cfl.rr.com>:
[...]
> ? ? I have added hosts allow with 192.168.1 and 192.168.2. ?I have
> experimented with a few things. ?I have looked at
> http://forums.fedoraforum.org/showthread.php?t=2556 and even read
This fedoraforums thread is about connecting to Windows from the Linux
machine.  Based on what you say below it looks like you want the
opposite, i.e. connect from the Windows machine to the Linux machine
in order to print.
> something about making the network communication in Vista be LM as well as
> NTLM...
You might want to add a bit more context for people who did not see or
do not remember the rest of this thread.

Barry L. Bond wrote:
> Greetings!
>
>      Tonight is unfortunately the first small bit of time I've had to
even
> try to get Samba configured between my Vista and my Linux FC4.  (My mother
> as well as my extremely limited home time dealing with important things
> are my main delays.)
>
>      It's not going well.  :-)
>
>      I have added hosts allow with 192.168.1 and 192.168.2.  I have
> experimented with a few things.  I have looked at
> http://forums.fedoraforum.org/showthread.php?t=2556 and even read
> something about making the network communication in Vista be LM as well as
> NTLM...
>
>      Okay, let me ask one basic question at a time.
>
>      I "was thinking" that I didn't have to actually mount
samba
> (smbmount) in the past, back years ago when I used it with VMWare and
> Windows 98.  (I was thinking that the smdb/nmdb daemons just did what was
> needed.)
>
>      I will be fine if I just am able to submit a print job from the
> Windows/Vista to the Linux HP9110 printer.  I will be fine if I just
> transfer any files, either direction, by accessing my host filesystem via
> Explorer in Windows.  (This is how I did it, years ago, with Windows 98 in
> VMWare.)
>
>      I am thinking that I do NOT need to add to /etc/fstab, or smbmount
> anything from the Linux side.  Do you agree?
>
>      Barry
>
>   
I'd begin by upgrading to something more recent than Fedora Core 4. I 
believe there are some issues that Vista introduced that required some 
changes in Samba (I may be wrong on this, but I suspect upgrading to 
something more recent is still a good idea). At the very least, see if 
there is a backport for a more recent version of Samba to FC4.

It sounds like you are using FC4 as a file & print server. All you need 
to do on it is share the resources (folders and printers) and set up the 
permissions and accounts (if required).

You don't mention which version of Vista you are using, and I don't know
if they crippled certain versions like they did with XP to prevent them 
from joining domains. However, if you can join Vista to a domain, 
install and use SWAT to set up Samba as a domain controller and use it 
to log in from Vista.

Hi Gary!

     Thank you for your reply and help!
>I'd begin by upgrading to something more recent than Fedora Core 4. I
>believe there are some issues that Vista introduced that required some
>changes in Samba (I may be wrong on this, but I suspect upgrading to
>something more recent is still a good idea). At the very least, see if
>there is a backport for a more recent version of Samba to FC4.
     I just now read a previous post from you that also indicated concerns
with my running FC4, that I missed before.

     I am afraid that right now I just don't have any time for the
computer stuff at home I used to have so well set up and caught up.  :-(

     Right now, given that there are very important things I need to get
to each week that I don't get to (you can see the one time a week that I
may have a half hour or so to revisit my strong desire to be able to print
from Windows, even though I don't need to often!), I'm afraid I'm in
an
"if it works, don't fix it" mode...

     By "backport" do you mean a more recent version of Samba that
will
work in FC4?
>It sounds like you are using FC4 as a file & print server. All you need
>to do on it is share the resources (folders and printers) and set up the
>permissions and accounts (if required).
     On the Windows, I did do some things along this line (setting up
sharing) last week...
>You don't mention which version of Vista you are using, and I don't
know
>if they crippled certain versions like they did with XP to prevent them
>from joining domains. However, if you can join Vista to a domain,
>install and use SWAT to set up Samba as a domain controller and use it
>to log in from Vista.
     If I go to Control Panel and double click System, it says this:

<<>>
Windows edition..........

      Windows Vista Ultimate
      Copyright 2007 Microsoft Corporation.  All rights reserved.
      Service Pack 2
<<>>

     Does that tell you what you were desiring?  (I don't know Windows
very well.)  :-)

     Last week, I did read something that was along the lines of Vista
communicating with Samba.  I have already forgotten what they called it,
but I did find (with very explicit instructions posted by someone where I
was reading about that, in a Microsoft forum) and I checked a different
thing, to see whether that would work...

     Gary, I really appreciate your help.  On terminology, how do I join
Vista to a domain?

     Thank you!
     Barry