I''m a little unclear on theory here. I have a number of tables but specifically... clients placements facilities A client may have only 1 placement A placement may have only 1 client but there may be many placements per client. A placement may have only 1 facility A facility may have only 1 placement but there may be many placements per facility I''m wondering if it is necessary to store a facility relation in the client since the client will have one relation to the placement and the placement will have a one relation to the facility. I do anticipate needing frequent reports that list clients per facility so that would be an advantage to store the facility in the client. Should I be creating a relationship between client and facility when the real relationship is between client and placement and the other real relationship is between placement and facility? Craig