Just a quick followup to the query I posted yesterday. The default screen layout for the Windows version of R (1.5.1 currently) is MDI, which has the RGUI itself maximized over the entire screen, while the R console is in a smaller window inside the RGui. I asked whether there was some way at startup to change the amount of screen real-estate occupied by the RGui itself since this can be changed during an R-session but didn't seem to persist between R sessions. I first noted this problem on my WinXP systems and didn't seem to have this difficulty on my Windows 2000 systems. This appears to be a "normal" behavior of R and the simple solution is to change from MDI to SDI, which does permit the resizing and persistence of the R Console. Mark Bravington has sent me a "hack" (his term) for this problem, which allows a bit more control of the size of parent and child windows in the MDI versions of both SPlus and R. I confess that I haven't tried them yet -- no time -- but I promised Mark that I will soon and report back to him. If they solve the problem I would like to solve, Mark has proposed cleaning up the routines and posting them for others to use. Thanks to Brian Ripley both for confirming the behavior I'm seeing and pointing out that use of SDI is one way to resolve the issue, and to Mark Bravington for offering a different solution to the bigger issue. Dr. Marc R. Feldesman Professor and Chairman Anthropology Department - Portland State University email: feldesmanm at pdx.edu email: feldesman at attglobal.net fax: 503-725-3905 "Sometimes the lights are all shining on me, other times I can barely see, lately it's occurred to me, what a long strange trip it's been..." Jerry & the boys -.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.- r-help mailing list -- Read http://www.ci.tuwien.ac.at/~hornik/R/R-FAQ.html Send "info", "help", or "[un]subscribe" (in the "body", not the subject !) To: r-help-request at stat.math.ethz.ch _._._._._._._._._._._._._._._._._._._._._._._._._._._._._._._._._._._._._._._._