wine users - Jul 2010 - "taskbars" or "windows lists" in Wine

I am running Wine 1.2-rc7 on a Ubuntu 10.04 minimal install. I have installed X,
and Wine seems to run fine. The problem is that applications that want to make a
"window list" or taskbar don't draw them. It isn't a fatal
error, the applications simply act like nothing happened. For instance, when I
use BBClean (blackbox for Windows), it shows the panel but not the window list.
And when running ReactOS Explorer in desktop mode (in the application, not
Wine's "emulate virtual desktop" feature) it draws the desktop
with icons, but doesn't draw the taskbar, e.g. no start button, clock,
anything. One thing I think might be a conflict is how Wine manages it's
windows when the "let the window manager control windows" is set to
off.

I know this is stretching the limits of what Wine was intended for, but does
anybody know what could be causing this? Are API calls of this kind simply not
implemented?

Thanks.

When you say taskbar, do you mean Wine's taskbar in the virtual desktop?
Because Wine doesn't have any.

Gert van den Berg wrote:
> On Thu, Jul 15, 2010 at 17:59, DaVince <wineforum-user at winehq.org>
wrote:
> 
> > When you say taskbar, do you mean Wine's taskbar in the virtual
desktop? Because Wine doesn't have any.
> > 
> > 
> Seems like a basic X server with a Windows window manager under Wine
> is involved... (No *nix desktop environment...)
> 
> Gert

Pretty much. I'm trying to get a Win32 desktop environment running on top of
Linux and X; without using a seperate X window manager. It's sort of like an
experiment to see if it can be done.   It's just whatever API call is used
to get the list of open windows isn't working. Or is there even an API call
for that or is it some low-level Windows voodoo or something? 8)