Can any of it talk to a GPS yet?? I have suites from Garmin, Maptech, Topo.com, and Topo (as sold through National Geographic -- the least satisfactory of all). Last year at about this time, it still took massive effort, time, and help just to get any of them to launch. Now a couple at least launch, and even run, quite nicely, just in plain wine -- except in the most important respect of all. Viz, not one can talk with any GPS I own (three not very new Garmin models). My main use for both hard- and software in this area is to create my own maps, accurate and to scale, of things like how to get to my house (Maptech sends you through an intersection that doesn't exist and never has.), or game trails, den trees, and stands in the woods. So that's a fatal shortcoming. But all the linux-native apps I keep revisiting still seem to me to require degrees in topography, or electronics, or linux -- or two or all three. -- Beartooth Staffwright, PhD, Neo-Redneck Linux Convert Remember I know precious little of what I am talking about.