Hi, I would like set up a Linux desktop icon and menu item that will launch a wine based "Windows desktop". Ideally the "Windows desktop" should look excactlly like a *default* windows 2K/XP desktop. Is this possible ? Has anybody already done so ? Is that already docemented somewhere ? I think this would allow more users to try out wine using the familar windows gui interface. Next step would be to install simple windows applications all within the familar windows environmet. -- Mvh Hans Christian Studt Mobile +45 29 23 54 14 hc[AT]studt[DOT]dk http://hc.studt.dk Powered by Linux 2.6.14-1.1644_FC4
Hi, I would like set up a Linux desktop icon and menu item that will launch a wine based "Windows desktop". Ideally the "Windows desktop" should look excactlly like a *default* windows 2K/XP desktop. Is this possible ? Has anybody already done so ? Is that already docemented somewhere ? I think this would allow more users to try out wine using the familar windows gui interface. Next step would be to install simple windows applications all within the familar windows environmet. -- Mvh Hans Christian Studt Mobile +45 29 23 54 14 hc[AT]studt[DOT]dk http://hc.studt.dk Powered by Linux 2.6.14-1.1644_FC4
Hi, I would like set up a Linux desktop icon and menu item that will launch a wine based "Windows desktop". Ideally the "Windows desktop" should look excactlly like a *default* windows 2K/XP desktop. Is this possible ? Has anybody already done so ? Is that already docemented somewhere ? I think this would allow more users to try out wine using the familar windows gui interface. Next step would be to install simple windows applications all within the familar windows environmet. -- Mvh Hans Christian Studt Mobile +45 29 23 54 14 hc[AT]studt[DOT]dk http://hc.studt.dk Powered by Linux 2.6.14-1.1644_FC4
Am Mo, Jan 16, 2006 at 09:48:53 +0100 schrieb Hans Christian Studt:> I think this would allow more users to try out wine using the familar > windows gui interface. > > Next step would be to install simple windows applications all within the > familar windows environmet.I don't understand where this leads to: If you want to use Windows just do it! If you buy a new car do you want to look it like your old one? No, you just want it to have pedals and a steering-wheel. The rest will look different but will do the same as in your old one. And I am sure you don't want to use your old seats. Make yourself familiar with the new ones and have fun with them. It's not so hard. Regards Joachim von Thadden -- "Never touch a running system! Never run a touching system? Never run a touchy system!!!"
>In case you really want an environment feeling just like the windows XP >desktop, you could either make a special window manager that responds as >much like that windows desktop as possible (that'd be loads of work) -- >or just use one of the window managers for which there are themes to >make desktop similar to the XP oneI've looked at this problem too, except I'm trying to duplicate a Windows 2000 desktop. There's *plenty* of XP-like themes, but not much for Win2K. I'm planning ahead for when I can (finally) move my brother's system to Linux, and he's a picky user who hates it if I even re-arrange his icons, so I figure I'd want to make a desktop almost identical to what he has in 2K now. Ultimately, the most critical app is also the most impossible to find a native *or* Wine-compatible replacement for, namely an eBay offline auction posting tool.
Hans Christian Studt wrote:>> >> In case you really want an environment feeling just like the windows >> XP desktop, you could either make a special window manager that >> responds as much like that windows desktop as possible (that'd be >> loads of work) -- or just use one of the window managers for which >> there are themes to make desktop similar to the XP one (for instance, >> KDE comes pretty close I thought, when configured to use windows-like >> looks and behaviours) >> It's up to the user to choose to use that window manager and/or theme, >> ofcourse >> > Is that what are needed if I want a wine-desktop within the > KDE/GNOME-desktop - like there is a QEMU-desktop or a rdesktop within he > KDE/GNOME-desktop. >Don't know -- was just saying that's a solution to fine-tune every single detail -- but if just using a -sort-of-like-windows desktop is okay than you choose a KDE/whatever theme to decorate windows to look like XP (I think KDE or GNOME can be configured to use a window manager other than the standard one -- but that'd boil down to the same as designing your own window manager)
I am coming to the discussion late as I am new to this list, but are you referring to something more along the line of a front end user interface to Wine, similar to what Cedaga has done with WineX? Rich Elswick Test Engineer Cobasys LLC -----Original Message----- From: wine-users-bounces@winehq.org [mailto:wine-users-bounces@winehq.org] On Behalf Of Hans Christian Studt Sent: Tuesday, January 17, 2006 3:20 PM To: thadden@web.de; wine-users@winehq.org; sslug-teknik@sslug.dk Subject: Re: [Wine] Wine based "Windows desktop" Joachim von Thadden wrote:>Am Mo, Jan 16, 2006 at 09:48:53 +0100 schrieb Hans Christian Studt: > > >>I think this would allow more users to try out wine using the familar >>windows gui interface. >> >>Next step would be to install simple windows applications all within >>the familar windows environmet >> >I don't understand where this leads to: >I am just trying to find out what version 1.0 or 2.0 of wine is supposed to provide when it comes to end user facing functionallity.> If you want to use Windows just do it! >I believe wine is for people who need to use Windows application, so I am not sure what your point is.> If you buy a new car do you want to look it like your old one? > >Same as above.>No, you just want it to have pedals and a steering-wheel. The rest will >look different but will do the same as in your old one. >OK, the theming, style etc. can be KDE og GNOME or some other that are available under linux. If needed I will implement a menu structure like a windows START-menu.> And I am sure you don't want to use your old seats. >It is the old applications I want. Most users want application access not specific OS or API.>Make yourself familiar with the >new ones and have fun with them. It's not so hard. > > >Done that since Altos in the late 80's>Regards > Joachim von Thadden > >The following is a brain-dump of some of my thoughts. My sister have 1 daughter (7 years) and 2 boys (5 years) and for the past 3 years I have provided then with a dual boot system. During that time they have had great fun running both windows and linux games. They have no problem controlling the boot process, and often boot direct into linux even though windows boot are the default. It is funny to see them typing away while the linux boot proceeds. They play linux games like tuxracer, snakes, stones, tuxmath, tuxtype and a lot others I can not remember. I have even rebuild some of the games to make the levels easier since not all are in Danish. I Denmark there are some very popular and educatinal windows games called "Magnus og Myggen" that may soon be able to work with wine. A am sure there are other windows programs that they will need to use in the future. I am also pretty sure that they will not be able to install these windows programs with wine by them self any time soon. I do not think that it will require much deep wine programming to improve the process of installing windows games and other programs in wine and as wine aproaches 1.0 it may even be required. I would like to help out with that side of the wine project. It is from that corner of the world that I ask what are the current process of installing a program or application (let say game-setup.exe) with wine. Will it provide a KDE/GNOME-desktop icon and/or a menu group and item ? Would it make sense to have a wine-desktop inside the KDE/GNOME-desktop where the wine installation and action took place ? The thing is that I think that am too much a *nix guy, to be able to help out with implementing wine/windows API functionality. I hope some of this makes sense. Tsch?ss -- Mvh Hans Christian Studt Mobile +45 29 23 54 14 hc[AT]studt[DOT]dk http://hc.studt.dk Powered by Linux 2.6.14-1.1644_FC4 _______________________________________________ wine-users mailing list wine-users@winehq.org http://www.winehq.org/mailman/listinfo/wine-users
On Mon, 2006-01-16 at 19:10 +0100, Hans Christian Studt wrote:> Hi, > > I would like set up a Linux desktop icon and menu item that will launch > a wine based "Windows desktop". > > Ideally the "Windows desktop" should look excactlly like a *default* > windows 2K/XP desktop. > > Is this possible ? > Has anybody already done so ? > Is that already docemented somewhere ? >Linspire? AFAICT it is built for that purpose, and the desktop manager is designed for that look and feel.> I think this would allow more users to try out wine using the familar > windows gui interface. > > Next step would be to install simple windows applications all within the > familar windows environmet. >