samba - May 2003 - "Additional Drivers" and Print Window Refresh

I have RTFM'd, so excuse me if I missed something in the manual. :)

1) When I attempt to add additional drivers (the inital driver worked just
fine, when using the instructions in John's HOWTO), I get the following
error:

"The printer driver you selected is either not compatible with your
current version of Windows, or it may not be available. Select a
compatible driver from the list, or contact your administrator for help."

...as this is an M$ error, I've been having trouble figuring it out as far
as Samba goes. Does anyone know why I wouldn't be able to add Win 95-98
drivers with Win2k Professional to a Samba PRINT$ share? The Win2k driver
I added first was fine. A possibly related problem is my inability to use
enumprinters:

# /products/samba/bin/rpcclient //localhost -U novosirj -c
"enumprinters"
Password:
cmd = enumprinters
rpc_api_pipe: cmd 26 on pipe 7530 failed to return data.
result was NT_STATUS_UNSUCCESSFUL

2) I have an NT4 machine that I'm using as a print monitor, to show users
the queue when they stand near the printer. However, when switching from
'98 to NT (NT works better for this purpose, from what I've seen), I am
now having problems with the queue not updating. Sometimes there will be
no change in the queue until I hit F5 -- not the way I want it to work.
"lpq cache time= " seems not to have anything to do with it.

Anyone got some answers?

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Ryan Novosielski novosirj at umdnj.edu
> Fri May 23 13:22:36 GMT 2003
> 
> 
> I have RTFM'd, so excuse me if I missed something in the manual. :)
> 
Probably the authors missed to put in a note reminding the readers to
always provide versions and software info if the request help on mailing
lists....
> 1) When I attempt to add additional drivers (the inital driver worked just
> fine, when using the instructions in John's HOWTO),
John's HOWTO Collection will soon include this drafted document:

     http://www.linuxprinting.org/kpfeifle/SambaPrintHOWTO/

This one is very much extended and should soon count as the real reference
when RTFM-ing   ;-)
> I get the following
> error:
> 
> "The printer driver you selected is either not compatible with your
> current version of Windows, or it may not be available. Select a
> compatible driver from the list, or contact your administrator for
help."
Please heck the sections

   
http://www.linuxprinting.org/kpfeifle/SambaPrintHOWTO/Samba-HOWTO-Collection-3.0-PrintingChapter-9th-draft.html#10

and

   
http://www.linuxprinting.org/kpfeifle/SambaPrintHOWTO/Samba-HOWTO-Collection-3.0-PrintingChapter-9th-draft.html#11_2_10
> ...as this is an M$ error, I've been having trouble figuring it out as
far
> as Samba goes. Does anyone know why I wouldn't be able to add Win 95-98
> drivers with Win2k Professional to a Samba PRINT$ share? The Win2k driver
> I added first was fine. A possibly related problem is my inability to use
> enumprinters:
> 
> # /products/samba/bin/rpcclient //localhost -U novosirj -c
"enumprinters"
> Password:
> cmd = enumprinters
> rpc_api_pipe: cmd 26 on pipe 7530 failed to return data.
> result was NT_STATUS_UNSUCCESSFUL
This could be a Samba/rpcclient bug in your particular version of Samba....
> 2) I have an NT4 machine that I'm using as a print monitor, to show
users
> the queue when they stand near the printer. However, when switching from
> '98 to NT (NT works better for this purpose,
NT printing works very differently from Win 98 printing...
> from what I've seen), I am
> now having problems with the queue not updating. Sometimes there will be
> no change in the queue until I hit F5 -- not the way I want it to work.
> "lpq cache time= " seems not to have anything to do with it.
> 
> Anyone got some answers?
> 
No -- but some questions for you to answer first....   ;-)

Which is the UNIX print subsystem you are using on the Samba host? CUPS?
LPRng? Something else? Which version of it?

Which version of Samba are you running?

Cheers,
Kurt

Ryan Novosielski novosirj at umdnj.edu wrote on Samba-Digest:
> Fri May 23 22:07:56 GMT 2003
> On Sat, 24 May 2003, Kurt Pfeifle wrote:
>> John's HOWTO Collection will soon include this drafted document:
>>
>>      http://www.linuxprinting.org/kpfeifle/SambaPrintHOWTO/
>>
>> This one is very much extended and should soon count as the real
reference
>> when RTFM-ing   ;-)
> 
> Actually, much of the wording is familiar to me... is it just that this is
> an amended version of John's HOWTO, or would I have had to have seen
this
> to remember it?
I don't know about what you saw.

The content in John's version is vastly amended (I'd guess going from 38
pages to > 100 is vast). A lot of detailed explanations are now included;
rpcclient with print-related sub-commands to populate [print$] with driver
files is documented for the first time with a lot of examples. Setting the
correct printer device mode is explained and a lot more (it is not yet
finished and polished, but already helped quite some people to get their
print setup working).

Cheers,
Kurt

Ryan Novosielski wrote:
> I have RTFM'd, so excuse me if I missed something in the manual. :)
> 
> 1) When I attempt to add additional drivers (the inital driver worked just
> fine, when using the instructions in John's HOWTO), I get the following
> error:
> 
> "The printer driver you selected is either not compatible with your
> current version of Windows, or it may not be available. Select a
> compatible driver from the list, or contact your administrator for
help."
> 
I have got this error on several occasions, once (at least) it was
related to different naming of the printer driver in different windows
versions (that is: bug by the driver manufacturer).

At one point I got the driver installed by going to the driver tab in
the "server properties" in the "printers" section (as seen
from a
win2k/XP workstation). (To get to it you right-click on a white space in
the windows explorer window instead of right-clicking a particular
printer). Once there I clicked the driver in question, then on
"replace", but instead of giving it the same driver - I gave it the
driver for the additional windows version. It then added this driver to
the list (instead of replacing the other).

I hope this explanation wasn't too confusing.

Perhaps this (in a better wording) should be included in the updated
printing howto?

Eirik Thorsnes

-- 
"Nothing would please me more than being able to
hire ten programmers and deluge the hobby market
with good software." -- Bill Gates 1976

We are still waiting ....

Ryan Novosielski novosirj at umdnj.edu
> Tue May 27 13:46:58 GMT 2003
> 
[....]

> Does anyone know how to REMOVE drivers from a Win2k or Win98 machine in
> order to find out?
To remove a driver, you must first delete *every* printer (=printqueue)
associated with it.

to remove all instances of printer drivers, dlls, reg entries etc.. you
need to use a "deleter". Kyocera include one in their laser driver
download package. We have found its the only reliable way to
upgrade/replace printer drivers particularly on Xp-pro.
regards,
Richard Coates.