samba - Apr 2003 - Detecting Samba server from Windows?

Hi,

I'm curious to know how I can programmatically differentiate between a Samba
share and a Windows NT share from a Windows program. For both,
GetVolumeInformation() claims the file system is "NTFS". This
isn't very
helpful. I need to be able to tell the two apart because "real" NTFS
supports various things Samba's "simulated" NTFS doesn't, such
as
100-nanasecond time resolution and all file attributes.

Is it possible? It seems like this would be a common question, but extensive
searching turned up nothing...

Thanks,
Jordan Russell

Hi Jordan Russell,

you wrote:
> I'm curious to know how I can programmatically differentiate between
> a Samba share and a Windows NT share from a Windows program. For
both,
> GetVolumeInformation() claims the file system is "NTFS". This
isn't
> very helpful. I need to be able to tell the two apart because
"real"
> NTFS supports various things Samba's "simulated" NTFS
doesn't, such
as
> 100-nanasecond time resolution and all file attributes.
>
> Is it possible? It seems like this would be a common question, but
> extensive searching turned up nothing...
read the docs:

fstype (S)
This parameter allows the administrator to configure the string that
specifies the type of filesystem a share is using that is reported by
smbd(8) when a client queries the filesystem type for a share. The
default type is NTFS for compatibility with Windows NT but this can be
changed to other strings such as Samba or FAT if required.
Default: fstype = NTFS
Example: fstype = Samba

der tom

you guys are very strange sometimes :)

seriously, about 90% of peoples problems with samba on here could 
be
fixed by doing 2 things..

1.  make Windows 9x network id and password  =  unix user you 
want to log in as
2.  add  "netbios name = <NT-server-name>" in the global section
of smb.conf

NT based kernels (XP/2000/NT) require the  "netbios name" to 
be set, 
otherwise it will not work.

security level = user,
win9x uses your login id and password in windows, to log into 
samba, NT/2000/XP
prompts you for an id and password. 

if you DON'T do this for 9x, you will have problems logging into 
IPC$
to fix this, just simply change your windows 9x id and password, 
because
basically prompting for a password to IPC$ means it cannot find 
the userid and
password you specified. NT/2000/XP prompts you for it when it 
tries to access
the server,  9x prompts you for it when you startup your computer.
just two different methods is all :)

if you do just those 2 things, you shouldn't have to modify your 
smb.conf
file AT ALL from the original defaults :)   thats what I do under 
redhat 8 and 9
and Mandrake 8 and 9, and works just fine under all platforms 
:)


-Tom-

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On Mon, 7 Apr 2003, Jordan Russell wrote:
> That's not useful. For one thing, changing fstype from NTFS 
can impact
> "compatibility with Windows NT" as eluded to in the docs, and 
also,
> requiring users to modify their Samba configuration just so 
my program
> can detect Samba would defeat the whole purpose of auto-detecting 
Samba
> in the first place. I might as well just ask users to manually 
specify
> whether shares are Samba shares!
Samba servers reply to the name __SAMBA__.  this might help you.
Other than that you could add something to the server string.



cheers, jerry
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Since I've got a NT PDC around I've solved my login problems by using
"password=domain" in my Samba configs on AIX, Solaris, HP-UX, and
Linux and
that works out very well for us.  :)

Peace.....

("another") Tom



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you guys are very strange sometimes :)

seriously, about 90% of peoples problems with samba on here could
be
fixed by doing 2 things..

1.  make Windows 9x network id and password  =  unix user you
want to log in as
2.  add  "netbios name = <NT-server-name>" in the global section
of smb.conf

NT based kernels (XP/2000/NT) require the  "netbios name" to
be set,
otherwise it will not work.

security level = user,
win9x uses your login id and password in windows, to log into
samba, NT/2000/XP
prompts you for an id and password.

if you DON'T do this for 9x, you will have problems logging into
IPC$
to fix this, just simply change your windows 9x id and password,
because
basically prompting for a password to IPC$ means it cannot find
the userid and
password you specified. NT/2000/XP prompts you for it when it
tries to access
the server,  9x prompts you for it when you startup your computer.
just two different methods is all :)

if you do just those 2 things, you shouldn't have to modify your
smb.conf
file AT ALL from the original defaults :)   thats what I do under
redhat 8 and 9
and Mandrake 8 and 9, and works just fine under all platforms
:)


-Tom-

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On Mon, 7 Apr 2003, Jordan Russell wrote:
> That's not useful. For one thing, changing fstype from NTFS
can impact
> "compatibility with Windows NT" as eluded to in the docs, and
also,
> requiring users to modify their Samba configuration just so
my program
> can detect Samba would defeat the whole purpose of auto-detecting
Samba
> in the first place. I might as well just ask users to manually
specify
> whether shares are Samba shares!
Samba servers reply to the name __SAMBA__.  this might help you.
Other than that you could add something to the server string.



cheers, jerry
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