Ralph79
2008-Jan-23 12:17 UTC
[R] Problems with XP32-"3GB-patch"?/ Worth upgrading to Vista X64?
Dear R-Users, as I will start a huge simulation in a few weeks, I am about to buy a new and fast PC. I have noticed, that the RAM has been the limiting factor in many of my calculations up to now (I had 2 GB in my "old" system, but Windows still used quite a lot of virtual memory), hence my new computer will have 4 GB of fast DDR2-800 RAM. However, I know that 1.) Windows 32 bit cannot make use of more than about 3,2 GB RAM and 2.) it is normally not allowed to allocate more than 2 GB of RAM to one single application (at least under XP, I don't know if that has changed under Vista?). I remember from the R-FAQ that you can manually adjust XP so that it allocates up to 3 GB to one application ("the 3GB patch"), but I read in a PC-magazine and some message boards that this may cause problems. Does anybody of you successfully use this "trick" without any problems? Would it be wise to use a 64bit OS, as e.g. Vista X64? I think, under Vista X64 it should be no problem to allocate 4 GB of RAM to R. Any experiences with that? Thanks in advance, Ralph Wirth ----- Ralph Wirth University Erlangen-Nuremberg, Chair of Statistics GfK Group, Department of Methods and Product Development -- View this message in context: http://www.nabble.com/Problems-with-XP32-%223GB-patch%22---Worth-upgrading-to-Vista-X64--tp15040389p15040389.html Sent from the R help mailing list archive at Nabble.com.
Prof Brian Ripley
2008-Jan-23 13:05 UTC
[R] Problems with XP32-"3GB-patch"?/ Worth upgrading to Vista X64?
On Wed, 23 Jan 2008, Ralph79 wrote:> > Dear R-Users, > > as I will start a huge simulation in a few weeks, I am about to buy a new > and fast PC. I have noticed, that the RAM has been the limiting factor in > many of my calculations up to now (I had 2 GB in my "old" system, but > Windows still used quite a lot of virtual memory), hence my new computer > will have 4 GB of fast DDR2-800 RAM. > > However, I know that 1.) Windows 32 bit cannot make use of more than about > 3,2 GB RAM and 2.) it is normally not allowed to allocate more than 2 GB of > RAM to one single application (at least under XP, I don't know if that has > changed under Vista?). > > I remember from the R-FAQ that you can manually adjust XP so that it > allocates up to 3 GB to one application ("the 3GB patch"), but I read in a > PC-magazine and some message boards that this may cause problems. Does > anybody of you successfully use this "trick" without any problems?Yes, many people: most 32-bit Exchange servers use it. Please don't rate the advice in the R documentation below tittle-tattle you read on the web.> Would it be wise to use a 64bit OS, as e.g. Vista X64? I think, under Vista > X64 it should be no problem to allocate 4 GB of RAM to R. Any experiences > with that?That's what the rw-FAQ says, and we do write answers based on experience!> Thanks in advance, > Ralph Wirth > > > ----- > Ralph Wirth > University Erlangen-Nuremberg, Chair of Statistics > GfK Group, Department of Methods and Product Development > >-- Brian D. Ripley, ripley at stats.ox.ac.uk Professor of Applied Statistics, http://www.stats.ox.ac.uk/~ripley/ University of Oxford, Tel: +44 1865 272861 (self) 1 South Parks Road, +44 1865 272866 (PA) Oxford OX1 3TG, UK Fax: +44 1865 272595
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