I am (desperately) trying to get used to using a Mac here at my new
location. (Why *anyone* would ever use anything other than Linux, except
under duress as I am, totally escapes me, but that's another story.)
Fortunately much of the Mac OSX is actually Unix, so a civilized person can
manage to carry on ... But there are some things. (Like this <expletive
deleted> mailer ... But that's another story.)
When I ``open'' R using the icon on the ``dock'' several things
are
unsatisfactory; like I can't clear the screen using
system("clear"), nor can
I use vi syntax in command line editing. When I start R from the command
line (as a civilized person would do) these unsatisfactory circumstances go
away, but then a new one rears its ugly head: I can't plot!!! If I try a
plot without explicitly opening a plotting device, a postscript device with
file name ``Rplots.ps'' is silently opened. If I try opening a device
with
quartz() to get an on-screen plot, I get a warning message
quartz() device interactivity reduced without an event loop manager in:
quartz()
And a little coloured wheel spins round and round and the quartz() window
that opens hides underneath the terminal window and appears to be frozen to
the spot.
Apparently ``it'' wants .Platform$GUI to be equal to "AQUA",
but it is
(under the circumstances) "X11".
Trying to open a device using x11() simply results in an error.
Is there any way to get a working on-screen graphics window under these
circumstances?
I am very much hand-cuffed by the officious ITS policies here as to what
I can install on my Mac. (Effectively, nothing.)
``cheers'' (Hah!),
Rolf Turner
r.turner at auckland.ac.nz
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I don't know if it's "civilized" enough for you, but running R from the x11 command line will allow you to open an x11() device without a problem. Kyle H. Ambert Graduate Student, Dept. Behavioral Neuroscience Oregon Health & Science University ambertk@ohsu.edu On May 20, 2007, at 11:14 PM, Rolf Turner wrote:> > > I am (desperately) trying to get used to using a Mac here at my new > location. (Why *anyone* would ever use anything other than Linux, > except > under duress as I am, totally escapes me, but that's another story.) > > Fortunately much of the Mac OSX is actually Unix, so a civilized > person can > manage to carry on ... But there are some things. (Like this > <expletive > deleted> mailer ... But that's another story.) > > When I ``open'' R using the icon on the ``dock'' several things are > unsatisfactory; like I can't clear the screen using system > ("clear"), nor can > I use vi syntax in command line editing. When I start R from the > command > line (as a civilized person would do) these unsatisfactory > circumstances go > away, but then a new one rears its ugly head: I can't plot!!! If > I try a > plot without explicitly opening a plotting device, a postscript > device with > file name ``Rplots.ps'' is silently opened. If I try opening a > device with > quartz() to get an on-screen plot, I get a warning message > > quartz() device interactivity reduced without an event loop manager > in: > quartz() > > And a little coloured wheel spins round and round and the quartz() > window > that opens hides underneath the terminal window and appears to be > frozen to > the spot. > > Apparently ``it'' wants .Platform$GUI to be equal to "AQUA", but it is > (under the circumstances) "X11". > > Trying to open a device using x11() simply results in an error. > > Is there any way to get a working on-screen graphics window under > these > circumstances? > > I am very much hand-cuffed by the officious ITS policies here as to > what > I can install on my Mac. (Effectively, nothing.) > > ``cheers'' (Hah!), > > Rolf Turner > r.turner@auckland.ac.nz > > > ###################################################################### > Attention: > This e-mail message is privileged and confidential. If you are not the > intended recipient please delete the message and notify the sender. > Any views or opinions presented are solely those of the author. > > This e-mail has been scanned and cleared by MailMarshal > www.marshalsoftware.com > ###################################################################### > > ______________________________________________ > R-help@stat.math.ethz.ch mailing list > https://stat.ethz.ch/mailman/listinfo/r-help > PLEASE do read the posting guide http://www.R-project.org/posting- > guide.html > and provide commented, minimal, self-contained, reproducible code. >[[alternative HTML version deleted]]
Hi Rolf,
Two possible solutions:
* DISPLAY=0.0.0.0:0 R - and then X11() should work without having to use xterm
* install.packages("CarbonEL"); library(CarbonEL); quartz()
Hadley
On 5/21/07, Rolf Turner <r.turner at auckland.ac.nz>
wrote:>
>
> I am (desperately) trying to get used to using a Mac here at my new
> location. (Why *anyone* would ever use anything other than Linux, except
> under duress as I am, totally escapes me, but that's another story.)
>
> Fortunately much of the Mac OSX is actually Unix, so a civilized person can
> manage to carry on ... But there are some things. (Like this <expletive
> deleted> mailer ... But that's another story.)
>
> When I ``open'' R using the icon on the ``dock'' several
things are
> unsatisfactory; like I can't clear the screen using
system("clear"), nor can
> I use vi syntax in command line editing. When I start R from the command
> line (as a civilized person would do) these unsatisfactory circumstances go
> away, but then a new one rears its ugly head: I can't plot!!! If I
try a
> plot without explicitly opening a plotting device, a postscript device with
> file name ``Rplots.ps'' is silently opened. If I try opening a
device with
> quartz() to get an on-screen plot, I get a warning message
>
> quartz() device interactivity reduced without an event loop manager in:
> quartz()
>
> And a little coloured wheel spins round and round and the quartz() window
> that opens hides underneath the terminal window and appears to be frozen to
> the spot.
>
> Apparently ``it'' wants .Platform$GUI to be equal to
"AQUA", but it is
> (under the circumstances) "X11".
>
> Trying to open a device using x11() simply results in an error.
>
> Is there any way to get a working on-screen graphics window under these
> circumstances?
>
> I am very much hand-cuffed by the officious ITS policies here as to what
> I can install on my Mac. (Effectively, nothing.)
>
> ``cheers'' (Hah!),
>
> Rolf Turner
> r.turner at auckland.ac.nz
>
>
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On 2007-May-21 , at 08:14 , Rolf Turner wrote:> I am (desperately) trying to get used to using a Mac here at my new > location. (Why *anyone* would ever use anything other than Linux, > except > under duress as I am, totally escapes me, but that's another story.) >Oh that's harsh, Mac OS X is quite a good citizen and probably one of the best Unices out there. It is true that it has "its own way of doing things" and that's actually why Mac users love their Mac (there is kind of a Mac way of life ;) ). If you try to fight against it, you'll loose, but if you try to do things the Mac way, it ends up being a very efficient desktop (there are several things I know I would really miss if I had to switch back to Linux: smart folders, nice antialiased graphics, very good font management etc.)> Fortunately much of the Mac OSX is actually Unix, so a civilized > person can > manage to carry on ... But there are some things. (Like this > <expletive > deleted> mailer ... But that's another story.) >If you want OS X to be really unix like, use DarwinPorts (or Fink). But you need to install additional software and be able to sudo. OK back to R:> When I ``open'' R using the icon on the ``dock'' several things are > unsatisfactory; like I can't clear the screen using system > ("clear"), nor can > I use vi syntax in command line editing. When I start R from the > command > line (as a civilized person would do) these unsatisfactory > circumstances go > away, but then a new one rears its ugly head: I can't plot!!! If > I try a > plot without explicitly opening a plotting device, a postscript > device with > file name ``Rplots.ps'' is silently opened. If I try opening a > device with > quartz() to get an on-screen plot, I get a warning message > > quartz() device interactivity reduced without an event loop manager > in: > quartz() > > And a little coloured wheel spins round and round and the quartz() > window > that opens hides underneath the terminal window and appears to be > frozen to > the spot. > > Apparently ``it'' wants .Platform$GUI to be equal to "AQUA", but it is > (under the circumstances) "X11". >Yes, this is a known limitation: quartz() has to be started from RGUI (or JGR also I think) and can't be started from the terminal without some tinkering: https://stat.ethz.ch/pipermail/r-sig-mac/2004-September/001269.html [NB: this question is probably more for the R-SIG-Mac mailing list by the way]> Trying to open a device using x11() simply results in an error. > Is there any way to get a working on-screen graphics window under > these > circumstances? >Is X11 installed on you system? Which OS X version do you have? Basically you need 2 things to get x11 going from Terminal.app (i.e. the mac terminal, not an xterm): - to install X11 and launch it - to set the DISPLAY variable (to :0.0 for example) I have export DISPLAY=:0.0 in my .bashrc and I can open any x11 application directly from a Terminal.> I am very much hand-cuffed by the officious ITS policies here as to > what > I can install on my Mac. (Effectively, nothing.)You *need* to install additional software on a Mac to do anything else that email/web/amusement... as with any other platform I guess. So you'll need to convince your ITs to give you a little more freedom and you'll probably enjoy the Mac afterwards. If you want a nice terminal replacement try iTerm (and tweak a bit the appearance settings to make it easier on the eye). If you want a very nice text editor (which can actually interact with RGUI or send text to a Terminal with a running R session) try TextMate. It costs $40 but it's the only shareware I ever bought and I don't regret a cent of it. Cheers, JiHO --- http://jo.irisson.free.fr/ NB: when I find a little time, I'll add some content to this blog which details how to get Mac OS X behave a little bit more like Linux. Everything is written I just need to proofread it and actually post it. Let me know if you are interested.