Lingsheng Dong
2005-Dec-22 04:52 UTC
[R] Logistic regression to select genes and estimate cutoff point?
Hi, all, I am new to R or even to statistics. Not sure if the question has a answer. But I couldn't find a straight forward answer in the help mailing list. I need use MicroArray data to select several diagnostic genes between Normal samples and Tumor samples and use these genes to predict unknow samples. Since the sample size is so small and data doesn't follow normal distribution, I am thinking to use logistic regression instead of Student T test to select genes. To make the problem simpler, I assume each gene is independent to each other without interactions. My questions is how I should build up the model: one model for each gene or a multiple variable model to include all genes? Which is the test to compare the discrimination power of each gene? I am thinking it is Wald statistic for the multiple variable model and Maximum likelihood for the single gene models? Am I correct? To estimate the cutoff point, I guess the answer is the gene expression when p=0.5 in the model. Am I on the right direction? Any suggestion is appreciated! Thanks a lot. Lingsheng [[alternative HTML version deleted]]
Ido M. Tamir
2005-Dec-22 10:58 UTC
[R] Logistic regression to select genes and estimate cutoff point?
You could take a look at www.bioconductor.org limma would be a good starting point. hth ido
Frank E Harrell Jr
2005-Dec-22 13:27 UTC
[R] Logistic regression to select genes and estimate cutoff point?
Lingsheng Dong wrote:> Hi, all, > I am new to R or even to statistics. Not sure if the question has a answer. But I couldn't find a straight forward answer in the help mailing list. > I need use MicroArray data to select several diagnostic genes between Normal samples and Tumor samples and use these genes to predict unknow samples. > Since the sample size is so small and data doesn't follow normal distribution, I am thinking to use logistic regression instead of Student T test to select genes. To make the problem simpler, I assume each gene is independent to each other without interactions. > My questions is how I should build up the model: one model for each gene or a multiple variable model to include all genes? Which is the test to compare the discrimination power of each gene? I am thinking it is Wald statistic for the multiple variable model and Maximum likelihood for the single gene models? Am I correct? > To estimate the cutoff point, I guess the answer is the gene expression when p=0.5 in the model. Am I on the right direction? > Any suggestion is appreciated! > Thanks a lot. > LingshengJust a comment: Do you not have a statistician to work with at your institution? You are new to statistics and are asking a question that would be very difficult to deal with for someone with a PhD in statistics and 20 years of experience. Some of the issues involved are multiple comparisons, false discovery rate, shrinkage, array geometry effects, nonparametric vs. parametric statistics, stability of selected genes, discovery validation, ... -- Frank E Harrell Jr Professor and Chair School of Medicine Department of Biostatistics Vanderbilt University