On Tue, 27 Aug 2002, Akos Maroy wrote:> oddsock wrote: > > hrm....although I don't recall you stating that this is icecast 1.x, it > > appears that from the context of this message, that that is what you are > > running...if that is the case, from the log message above, it looks like > > you are supplying a mountpoint ending in .ogg, which is just gonna > > confuse the hell out of clients...change the mountpoint to something > > like /stream or somesuch... > > But isn't this the _only_ way to tell the client that this is not an mp3 > stream but an Ogg Vorbis stream?Icecast 1.x doesn't do ogg vorbis. Geoff. <p> -- Geoff Shang <gshang@uq.net.au> ICQ number 43634701 Make sure your E-mail can be read by everyone! http://www.betips.net/etc/evilmail.html Please avoid sending me Word or PowerPoint attachments. See http://www.fsf.org/philosophy/no-word-attachments.html <p>--- >8 ---- List archives: http://www.xiph.org/archives/ icecast project homepage: http://www.icecast.org/ To unsubscribe from this list, send a message to 'icecast-request@xiph.org' containing only the word 'unsubscribe' in the body. No subject is needed. Unsubscribe messages sent to the list will be ignored/filtered.
At 11:53 PM 8/27/2002 +1000, you wrote:>icecast 2.x will maintain content type (mp3, vorbis, etc.) regardless >of extension, but ending ogg mounpoints with .ogg is recommended as >a workaround for some very common client bugs (_new_ clients should > NOT under any circumstances rely on this)just a point (or two) worth mentioning, it's not exactly trivial for clients to support "sniffing the content-type" in this fashion....Keep in mind that media players are not browsers, and are not coded as such....To support what you are asking them to support, each media player would have to have a generic "http request" mechanism that would be able to detect a stream reference, connect to the appropraite server and retrieve the HTTP header, read the Content type, and then pass the connected socket onto the appropriate output plugin (mp3, vorbis, etc.)....While this is definately something that *could* be done, it's not something that can easily be done without serious planning (not to mention rewriting how output plugins currently work), let alone keeping compatable with older streaming mechanisms that don't provide a content type....like I said, it's not impossible, just "harder" than relying on the file extension.....anyway, just my $0.02... oddsock>Mike > >--- >8 ---- >List archives: http://www.xiph.org/archives/ >icecast project homepage: http://www.icecast.org/ >To unsubscribe from this list, send a message to 'icecast-request@xiph.org' >containing only the word 'unsubscribe' in the body. No subject is needed. >Unsubscribe messages sent to the list will be ignored/filtered.<p><p>--- >8 ---- List archives: http://www.xiph.org/archives/ icecast project homepage: http://www.icecast.org/ To unsubscribe from this list, send a message to 'icecast-request@xiph.org' containing only the word 'unsubscribe' in the body. No subject is needed. Unsubscribe messages sent to the list will be ignored/filtered.
oddsock wrote:> hrm....although I don't recall you stating that this is icecast 1.x, it > appears that from the context of this message, that that is what you are > running...if that is the case, from the log message above, it looks like > you are supplying a mountpoint ending in .ogg, which is just gonna > confuse the hell out of clients...change the mountpoint to something > like /stream or somesuch...But isn't this the _only_ way to tell the client that this is not an mp3 stream but an Ogg Vorbis stream? <p>Akos --- >8 ---- List archives: http://www.xiph.org/archives/ icecast project homepage: http://www.icecast.org/ To unsubscribe from this list, send a message to 'icecast-request@xiph.org' containing only the word 'unsubscribe' in the body. No subject is needed. Unsubscribe messages sent to the list will be ignored/filtered.
At 07:29 AM 8/27/02 +0200, you wrote:>oddsock wrote: >> hrm....although I don't recall you stating that this is icecast 1.x, it >> appears that from the context of this message, that that is what you are >> running...if that is the case, from the log message above, it looks like >> you are supplying a mountpoint ending in .ogg, which is just gonna >> confuse the hell out of clients...change the mountpoint to something >> like /stream or somesuch... > >But isn't this the _only_ way to tell the client that this is not an mp3 >stream but an Ogg Vorbis stream?No. This is only a way which is recommended due to common client bugs. In this case, this isn't revelant - icecast 1.x doesn't support ogg at all. icecast 2.x will maintain content type (mp3, vorbis, etc.) regardless of extension, but ending ogg mounpoints with .ogg is recommended as a workaround for some very common client bugs (_new_ clients should NOT under any circumstances rely on this) Mike --- >8 ---- List archives: http://www.xiph.org/archives/ icecast project homepage: http://www.icecast.org/ To unsubscribe from this list, send a message to 'icecast-request@xiph.org' containing only the word 'unsubscribe' in the body. No subject is needed. Unsubscribe messages sent to the list will be ignored/filtered.