OK guys and gals ... can we please stop all the fighting? When technical questions are asked, they should be answered. I lot of people on this list have something that a lot of newbies need ... experience. So answering a question with "RTFM" or "JFGI" is not going to impart any of your experience ... which is one of the things they need and want. Also ... if someone attacks you, you should not respond in kind, but should try not to flame or bait people. It take more than one person to get these things going, and just a little restraint on both people's parts could prevent problems. Can everyone who is a member of this list please read this document: http://www.gweep.ca/~edmonds/usenet/ml-etiquette.html Especially the section "I've been insulted! How should I respond?" Please, please, please ... can we be civil and not attack people personally. ALSO There is a forum at http://www.centos.org/modules/newbb/ It would be very good if people would post questions and answers there as well. Thanks, Johnny Hughes -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: signature.asc Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 189 bytes Desc: This is a digitally signed message part URL: <http://lists.centos.org/pipermail/centos/attachments/20050915/3949068d/attachment.sig>
On Thu, 15 Sep 2005, Johnny Hughes wrote:> Also ... if someone attacks you, you should not respond in kind, but > should try not to flame or bait people.I agree and apologize for my part in it. But I have to say this. This list is completely useless if you're going to be attacked constantly by the likes of Bryan without anyone else stepping in and putting a stop to it. I apologize and I admit it was wrong to continue an OT post here. But I was just trying to defend myself.> It take more than one person to get these things going, and just a > little restraint on both people's parts could prevent problems.Agreed.> Can everyone who is a member of this list please read this document: > > http://www.gweep.ca/~edmonds/usenet/ml-etiquette.html > > Especially the section "I've been insulted! How should I respond?"I will, definitely. Thank you and once again I'm sorry to everyone else. Preston
On Thu, 2005-09-15 at 16:49 -0500, Johnny Hughes wrote:> So answering a question with "RTFM" or "JFGI" is not going to impart any > of your experience ... which is one of the things they need and want.Ummm ... as someone who takes the time to explain things on a regular basis, I _rarely_ do that. In fact, I took way too much time in a prior thread! I'm probably the most detailed and verbose person here, even if I don't always explain things in ways that everyone can understand. But I do try and give answers (and not to "sport my knowledge"). Now I'm sorry I even said RTFM on the Mencoder thread. How to control bitrate is rather subjective in Mencoder, and only the man page is complete. That was my point. Yes, Preston did "piss me off" in an earlier thread, and from what I saw, he had not even bothered to hit the man page (and it was more like a rant). My response wasn't ideal. But I still find it a bit sad that you used the terms "RTFM" and "JFGI" because, given the recent words (although I never used or even suggested JFGI), I want to take it personally. Sorry, but it really looks unicast. I'm working on the hack for the YUM repository for my own, internal needs, and will still pass it along. But you are the project lead, and I can't complain. Please block my e-mail address from the list as I requested prior. That way I can't even comment anymore. This will be my last post to the list for awhile. Apparently some of the same core of "select people" have gone from being tactful to outright blame and lack of ownership on their part. -- Bryan J. Smith b.j.smith at ieee.org http://thebs413.blogspot.com ---------------------------------------------------------------------- The best things in life are NOT free - which is why life is easiest if you save all the bills until you can share them with the perfect woman
> http://www.gweep.ca/~edmonds/usenet/ml-etiquette.html > > Especially the section "I've been insulted! How should I respond?"There seemed to be a section in there targeted at me, but it doesn't seem to be available anymore. Is there a mirror of "How to write like a Wanker?" Always one to throw some gasoline on the fire :-D -- Jim Perrin System Administrator - UIT Ft Gordon & US Army Signal Center