CentOS - Mar 2005 - tripwire

Tripwire is probably one of must-have utilities for many system
administrators.  However, it is missing from almost all recent Red
Hattish distributions.  IMO, probably due to the fact that source
compiles only on i386, and needs patches to compile almost every time
new major version of gcc is released.  However, in absence of good
replacement, this is all we have. (IMO, other tools such as AIDE for
example, are not quite at the same usability level).

I''ve fetched SRPM from Fedora 3 extras repo:

http://mirror.web-ster.com/fedora/extras/3/SRPMS/tripwire-2.3.1-21.src.rpm

Compiled it on CentOS 4.0, tested, and it seems to be working correctly.
  Would this be a good candidate for including in addons, extras,
centosplus, or contribs repository?  As far as I can see, Dag doesn''t
include it in his repository, and Fedora Extras is, well, only for Fedora.

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Aleksandar Milivojevic <amilivojevic@pbl.ca>    Pollard Banknote Limited
Systems Administrator                           1499 Buffalo Place
Tel: (204) 474-2323 ext 276                     Winnipeg, MB  R3T 1L7

Contribs possibly?  *shrugs*

As a general question.. how does one go about upping additional packages?


On Mon, 07 Mar 2005 10:00:53 -0600, Aleksandar Milivojevic
<amilivojevic@pbl.ca> wrote:
> Tripwire is probably one of must-have utilities for many system
> administrators.  However, it is missing from almost all recent Red
> Hattish distributions.  IMO, probably due to the fact that source
> compiles only on i386, and needs patches to compile almost every time
> new major version of gcc is released.  However, in absence of good
> replacement, this is all we have. (IMO, other tools such as AIDE for
> example, are not quite at the same usability level).
>
> I''ve fetched SRPM from Fedora 3 extras repo:
>
> http://mirror.web-ster.com/fedora/extras/3/SRPMS/tripwire-2.3.1-21.src.rpm
>
> Compiled it on CentOS 4.0, tested, and it seems to be working correctly.
>   Would this be a good candidate for including in addons, extras,
> centosplus, or contribs repository?  As far as I can see, Dag
doesn''t
> include it in his repository, and Fedora Extras is, well, only for Fedora.
>
> --
> Aleksandar Milivojevic <amilivojevic@pbl.ca>    Pollard Banknote
Limited
> Systems Administrator                           1499 Buffalo Place
> Tel: (204) 474-2323 ext 276                     Winnipeg, MB  R3T 1L7
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>

Matt Bottrell wrote:
> Contribs possibly?  *shrugs*
>
> As a general question.. how does one go about upping additional packages?
>
> On Mon, 07 Mar 2005 10:00:53 -0600, Aleksandar Milivojevic
> <amilivojevic@pbl.ca> wrote:
>>Compiled it on CentOS 4.0, tested, and it seems to be working correctly.
>>  Would this be a good candidate for including in addons, extras,
>>centosplus, or contribs repository?  As far as I can see, Dag
doesn''t
>>include it in his repository, and Fedora Extras is, well, only for
Fedora.
If there is something that you want added to contrib''s on CentOS4, get
in touch with me or Johnny. But before you do that, check list :

- that its not a Base Pkg
- not hosted by Dag
- not a part of Fedora Extras.

Then, think of what is involved, and if you are ready to track that
package for security fx''s, changes, updates for a CentOS release cycle.

If the pkg requires some changes to the base pkg tree, we might still
consider hosting it - if its of general use to people ( eg. php5 makes
for a good candidate here ).

As far as Fedora Extras is concerned, I have the complete tree built
here in testing - its been built on and for CentOS4. If you are
interested in helping me test these pkgs, email me offlist and I will
share the repo details with you. I dont want to publish the repo details
as yet, since there are lots of things not tested.

Any packages hosted by Dag and also a part of Fedora Extras ( there are
a _lot_ ) will not make it through - I prefer you use Dag''s repo for
those.

- K
--
Karanbir Singh   : http://www.karan.org/
GnuPG Public Key : http://www.karan.org/publickey.asc

Thanks for the info....  :)

Hmmm... I might offer up PHP5.   :-)
Also Qmail if there is enough interest.

I have a range of RPMs not found in all these repos that could be of interest.

I''ll spend time over the next few weeks cataloging and determining
what is of use.


On Tue, 08 Mar 2005 14:32:58 +0000, Karanbir Singh <Mail-Lists@karan.org>
wrote:
> Matt Bottrell wrote:
> > Contribs possibly?  *shrugs*
> >
> > As a general question.. how does one go about upping additional
packages?
> >
> > On Mon, 07 Mar 2005 10:00:53 -0600, Aleksandar Milivojevic
> > <amilivojevic@pbl.ca> wrote:
> >>Compiled it on CentOS 4.0, tested, and it seems to be working
correctly.
> >>  Would this be a good candidate for including in addons, extras,
> >>centosplus, or contribs repository?  As far as I can see, Dag
doesn''t
> >>include it in his repository, and Fedora Extras is, well, only for
Fedora.
>
> If there is something that you want added to contrib''s on CentOS4,
get
> in touch with me or Johnny. But before you do that, check list :
>
> - that its not a Base Pkg
> - not hosted by Dag
> - not a part of Fedora Extras.
>
> Then, think of what is involved, and if you are ready to track that
> package for security fx''s, changes, updates for a CentOS release
cycle.
>
> If the pkg requires some changes to the base pkg tree, we might still
> consider hosting it - if its of general use to people ( eg. php5 makes
> for a good candidate here ).
>
> As far as Fedora Extras is concerned, I have the complete tree built
> here in testing - its been built on and for CentOS4. If you are
> interested in helping me test these pkgs, email me offlist and I will
> share the repo details with you. I dont want to publish the repo details
> as yet, since there are lots of things not tested.
>
> Any packages hosted by Dag and also a part of Fedora Extras ( there are
> a _lot_ ) will not make it through - I prefer you use Dag''s repo
for those.
>
> - K
> --
> Karanbir Singh   : http://www.karan.org/
> GnuPG Public Key : http://www.karan.org/publickey.asc
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>

On Wed, 2005-03-09 at 07:32 +1100, Matt Bottrell wrote:
> Thanks for the info....  :)
>
> Hmmm... I might offer up PHP5.   :-)
> Also Qmail if there is enough interest.
qmail cannot be packaged and distributed legally.
Go read the license if you do not believe me.


-sv

On Wed, 2005-03-09 at 07:32 +1100, Matt Bottrell wrote:
> Hmmm... I might offer up PHP5.   :-)
I actually already have it in my alternatives repo for CentOS 4.

http://centos.ivazquez.net/yum/ivazquez.repo
http://centos.ivazquez.net/yum/4/i386/RPMS.alternatives/
http://centos.ivazquez.net/yum/4/i386/SRPMS.alternatives/

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http://centos.ivazquez.net/
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Am Dienstag, den 08.03.2005, 15:46 -0500 schrieb seth vidal:

www.qmailtoaster.com i think this is the best choice for qmail on centos
3/4
> On Wed, 2005-03-09 at 07:32 +1100, Matt Bottrell wrote:
> > Thanks for the info....  :)
> >
> > Hmmm... I might offer up PHP5.   :-)
> > Also Qmail if there is enough interest.
>
> qmail cannot be packaged and distributed legally.
> Go read the license if you do not believe me.
>
>
> -sv
>
>
>
> _______________________________________________
> CentOS mailing list
> CentOS@caosity.org
> http://lists.caosity.org/mailman/listinfo/centos

Matt Bottrell wrote:
> Thanks for the info....  :)
>
> Hmmm... I might offer up PHP5.   :-)
> Also Qmail if there is enough interest.
>
> I have a range of RPMs not found in all these repos that could be of
interest.
>
> I''ll spend time over the next few weeks cataloging and determining
> what is of use.
>
I believe Ignacio already has php5 working....

also, it might be a good idea to stop top posting - most people ( I do
) find it hard to follow conversations like this.... on Mailing lists,
its a good idea to stay with the flow, and bottom post with quotes.

Thanks!

- K

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GnuPG Public Key : http://www.karan.org/publickey.asc

I agree.. I use QmailToaster myself... however I''m still looking for
well documented AntiVirus (ClamAV)  and SpamAssassin 3 (DB backend)
implementation

The existing page/packages has disappeared.  :(

I was hoping to package up their fine work (including ClamAV/SpamAssassin)....


On Tue, 08 Mar 2005 21:56:25 +0100, xspace <xspace@slackpkg.ath.cx>
wrote:
> Am Dienstag, den 08.03.2005, 15:46 -0500 schrieb seth vidal:
>
> www.qmailtoaster.com i think this is the best choice for qmail on centos
> 3/4
>
> > On Wed, 2005-03-09 at 07:32 +1100, Matt Bottrell wrote:
> > > Thanks for the info....  :)
> > >
> > > Hmmm... I might offer up PHP5.   :-)
> > > Also Qmail if there is enough interest.
> >
> > qmail cannot be packaged and distributed legally.
> > Go read the license if you do not believe me.
> >
> >
> > -sv
> >
> >
> >
> > _______________________________________________
> > CentOS mailing list
> > CentOS@caosity.org
> > http://lists.caosity.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
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On Tue, 08 Mar 2005 23:06:07 +0000, Karanbir Singh <Mail-Lists@karan.org>
wrote:
> Matt Bottrell wrote:
> > Thanks for the info....  :)
> >
> > Hmmm... I might offer up PHP5.   :-)
> > Also Qmail if there is enough interest.
> >
> > I have a range of RPMs not found in all these repos that could be of
interest.
> >
> > I''ll spend time over the next few weeks cataloging and
determining
> > what is of use.
> >
>
> I believe Ignacio already has php5 working....
>
> also, it might be a good idea to stop top posting - most people ( I do
> ) find it hard to follow conversations like this.... on Mailing lists,
> its a good idea to stay with the flow, and bottom post with quotes.
>
> Thanks!
>
> - K
>
> --
> Karanbir Singh   : http://www.karan.org/
> GnuPG Public Key : http://www.karan.org/publickey.asc
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> http://lists.caosity.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
>
Okay... will stop ''top posting''..
However it''s a pain in the butt in gmail... it works best when
''top posting''.

I also find it easier to read the START of an Email than going to the bottom.
Ahh well... I''ll keep the masses happy.

A FAQ might be prudent... as I see I''m not the only one.  ;)

Is there a collective repository of CentOS4/RHEL repos...
I''m aware of DAG, livna and most of the others... however some of the
more cryptic ones are not so easily found.  :(

> Ahh well... I''ll keep the masses happy.
While we''re on the subject of altering email habits, perhaps people can
also trim messages to only quote the relevant content from message that
is being responded to.  For example, I *KNOW* this is a CentOS mailing
list, I don''t need to see the mailman footer quoted in the response.
Not to mention the fact that often the response is a one-liner but it
quotes a 50 line message.
> A FAQ might be prudent... as I see I''m not the only one.  ;)
You mean like this one found via Google (email etiquette faq):

http://www.gweep.ca/~edmonds/usenet/ml-etiquette.html

See "When replying, should I quote the previous message?" in
particular. :-)

I find as a general rule of thumb, that if I don''t care enough about
formatting the message, it''s probably not worth sending to the whole
list.

Pat
--
                        "Let''s Roll" - Todd Beamer

On Mar 9, 2005, at 0:29, Patrick Lawrence - CentOS Lists
wrote:
>> A FAQ might be prudent... as I see I''m not the only one.  ;)
>
> You mean like this one found via Google (email etiquette faq):
>
> http://www.gweep.ca/~edmonds/usenet/ml-etiquette.html
May I also humbly suggest this resource, specifically about quoting:

http://how.to/quote

(unfortunately it doesn''t load right now, ack)

jens

Most people top post just for the record on any list, group I''ve been
on ;).

On Mar 9, 2005, at 11:02, Ian mu wrote:
> Most people top post just for the record on any list, group I''ve
been
> on ;).
Most people buy M$ garbage, too. That doesn''t mean M$ garbage is
better.

jens

Nope, but most people do tend to read from the top downwards, and
don''t need to read what they''ve already read before typically
;), and
you don''t even need to buy anything. Alternately people can just use
whichever system they prefer maybe then we can all live together in
peace ;).


On Wed, 9 Mar 2005 11:28:08 +0100, Jens Vagelpohl <jens@dataflake.org>
wrote:
>
> On Mar 9, 2005, at 11:02, Ian mu wrote:
>
> > Most people top post just for the record on any list, group
I''ve been
> > on ;).
>
> Most people buy M$ garbage, too. That doesn''t mean M$ garbage is
better.
>
> jens
>
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What kinda of wireless devices can you use to control a computer remotely
for presentatations? I have a user thats going to present his thesis and
thus wants to be able to switch pages in a Adobe acrobat document when
showing that on a projector screen.

I guess a cordless mouse would work fine, are there any other devices
that people have used for this purpose that works with CentOS?

Thanks,
Chris

Christian Nygaard wrote:
> What kinda of wireless devices can you use to control a computer remotely
> for presentatations? I have a user thats going to present his thesis and
> thus wants to be able to switch pages in a Adobe acrobat document when
> showing that on a projector screen.
>
> I guess a cordless mouse would work fine, are there any other devices
> that people have used for this purpose that works with CentOS?
>
Please start a new thread (e.g. don''t reply to any message and then
just
change the subject) when you have a totally new subject to bring up.  It
increases your likelihood of getting a response since more people will
see your messages).

Anyways, to answer your question I use a laptop on the podium
controlling the other machine by using VNC.  Both machines are connected
via a wireless access point.  The advantage is that the presenter need
not look back over his/her shoulder to see what''s on the screen.

BK

Matt Bottrell wrote:
> I agree.. I use QmailToaster myself... however I''m still looking
for
> well documented AntiVirus (ClamAV)  and SpamAssassin 3 (DB backend)
> implementation
There are links on ClamAV page to binary RPMs.  I usually build from
SRPM made by Petr Kristof (that one seems to be preffered).  Dag is also
mentioned on the page, so he should have one too.

SpamAssassin is part of base distribution.  I believe that getting it to
use DB backend is only configuratin issue?

To hook them into sendmail, I use MIMEDefang.  I use it because it is
extremely flexible and configurable.  However, flexibility comes with
price, you must know at least basics of Perl programming to configure
it.  Spec file is included in distribution, so you can simply run
rpmbuild -ta mimedefang-x.xx.tar.gz (but, first check INSTALL/README
files and install all required Perl modules).  I will be installing
MIMEDefang on my new CentOS 4 machine this week.  I''ll put resulting
RPM/SRPM packages on my web site, if anybody is interested.

P.S.
There''s been bunch of messages about top/bottom posting in this thread.
  Please, don''t turn it into flame war.

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Aleksandar Milivojevic <amilivojevic@pbl.ca>    Pollard Banknote Limited
Systems Administrator                           1499 Buffalo Place
Tel: (204) 474-2323 ext 276                     Winnipeg, MB  R3T 1L7

I find bottom-posting to be annoying, since when I open the mail all I see
is the useless quote...

On Tue, 8 Mar 2005, Karanbir Singh wrote:
> Matt Bottrell wrote:
> > Thanks for the info....  :)
> >
> > Hmmm... I might offer up PHP5.   :-)
> > Also Qmail if there is enough interest.
> >
> > I have a range of RPMs not found in all these repos that could be of
interest.
> >
> > I''ll spend time over the next few weeks cataloging and
determining
> > what is of use.
> >
>
> I believe Ignacio already has php5 working....
>
> also, it might be a good idea to stop top posting - most people ( I do
> ) find it hard to follow conversations like this.... on Mailing lists,
> its a good idea to stay with the flow, and bottom post with quotes.
>
> Thanks!
>
> - K
>
>

On 10 Mar 2005 at 15:20, Maciej  enczykowski wrote:
> I find bottom-posting to be annoying, since when I open the mail all I see
> is the useless quote...
I''m not sure a discussion of personal preferences will really
accomplish
much. Everyone has their own set. Absent firm dictates from the list
moderator, I tend to expect everyone to follow those preferences.

However, I think there are still plenty of us around who have been doing
this long enough to have internalized many of the practices recommended
in RFC 1855 (FYI 28), dated as it is.

http://www.faqs.org/rfcs/rfc1855.html

My personal pet peeve, especially since I often subscribe to digests, are
all the people who respond with a single line or two at the top and do
not trim any of the preceding thread, sometimes leaving screen after
screen of old text through which I have to scroll to get to the next
message in the digest. Four or five of those in a row and I often just
delete the digest with the rest unread. I''m sure I miss some things I
would find interesting that way, but it''s not worth the pain of wading
through the ''noise''.

Scott

On Thu, 10 Mar 2005 15:20:14 +0100 (CET), Maciej ?enczykowski
<maze@cela.pl> wrote:
> I find bottom-posting to be annoying, since when I open the mail all I see
> is the useless quote...
 Etiquette dictates removing useless quoting.

>  Etiquette dictates removing useless quoting.
True, but this is even harder to convince people to do than to top/bottom
post.

Aleksandar Milivojevic wrote:
> Matt Bottrell wrote:
>
>> I agree.. I use QmailToaster myself... however I''m still
looking for
>> well documented AntiVirus (ClamAV)  and SpamAssassin 3 (DB backend)
>> implementation
>
Ived used www.qmailrocks.org many times now with great success.

-Jim