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Balaji NJL

2004-Jan-03 19:31 UTC

[Asterisk-Users] STOP THIS THREAD New to asterisk? RUN... don't walk.

Hi All,

Can we stop this thread pl. This lady has no
intentions to learn asterisk.
She is just a troll and wasting our time. With her
corporate attitude, what
she expects is support that available with paid
commercial products. Her
company has enough money to buy commercial products,
let she go there. Hey
lady, whoever u are, dont waste our time. this is not
for u.

Lets move on to something useful pl.
-B

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Steven Critchfield" <critch@basesys.com>
To: <asterisk-users@lists.digium.com>
Sent: Saturday, January 03, 2004 5:36 PM
Subject: RE: [Asterisk-Users] New to asterisk? RUN...
don't walk.

> On Sat, 2004-01-03 at 14:12, Me wrote:
> > Mr. West,
> >
> > Sorry to burst your bubble, but that is not me. 
My> > name is Barbara Simpson.  Either you are lying or
> > someone is trying to remove any credibility from
my> > original post.  I now stand by my original post
with> > more conviction than ever.
>
> You had little to no credibility when you show up
acting like a troll> from what most people would consider a throw away
account.>
> > There were a lot of insightful replies.  However,
none> > of them were able to address the real problems of
the> > asterisk community and come up with solutions.  If
you> > can't see your own faults, you are in for a bumpy
> > ride.
>
> This is due to the problem residing in the general
population, not the> community. The problem resides in users who can't be
bothered to either> expend energy, or patience for the software to
develop. Remember you> came here, we didn't go recruiting you. So if you
are disappointed in> your experience, blame yourself for your
expectations. As far as I can> tell here, you haven't paid a single person for
anything, so any help> you have received has been at a cost to the other
people of this> community.
>
> So the solution is for you to grow up. You need to
learn that the> comment you have made in this thread are worthless
as they don't advance> anything here. If you want credibility in a
technical forum, you will> have to show some technical skills. Otherwise you
will be cast aside and> hopefully ignored.
>
> > Barbara Simpson
> > Qwest Voice Over Packet Services
> >
> > --- Brian West <brian@bkw.org> wrote:
> > > You said it good.... Look what this person
posted to> > > my blog... Now thats
> > > what I call grown up.
> > >
> > > Date: Thu, 1 Jan 2004 10:10:24 -0600
> > > From: two_shoes_2002@yahoo.com
> > > To: brian@bkw.org
> > >
> > > IP Address: 24.10.200.168
> > > Name: Jeff Sowery
> > > Email Address: two_shoes_2002@yahoo.com
> > > URL:
> > >
> > > Comments:
> > >
> > > You're a complete idiot.  Grow a brain or at
least> > > some balls.
> > >
> > > -Jeff
> > >
> > >
> > > NEXT!!!
> > >
> > > bkw
> > >
> > >
> > > On Thu, 1 Jan 2004, JR Richardson wrote:
> > >
> > > > Piping in 2 cents,
> > > >
> > > > This is a great example of the Internet, Fast
Food> > > generation, showing their
> > > > appreciation for all the magic that happens in
the> > > labs, hearts and minds of
> > > > the courageous, hard working, dedicated and
> > > motivated group of people truly
> > > > interested and guided to accomplish greatness.
> > > >
> > > > This platform for learning is one of the best
> > > tools in existence to come to
> > > > a finite understanding of VoIP and legacy
> > > telephony with the versatility to
> > > > expand beyond and develop originality in the
field> > > of telecommunications
> > > > excellence, product development.  Learn it,
> > > understand it, appreciate it,
> > > > then take it past where you found it and if
you're> > > capable contribute, if
> > > > not, enjoy it.  But always, always maintain
> > > respect for those who created it
> > > > and continue to refine it.
> > > >
> > > > Learning is intrinsically human, and in this
world> > > of Industry ("There is no
> > > > substitution for knowledge." [Edward Deming]).
> > > Find your inner child,
> > > > re-capture and embrace what God has given you,
the> > > ability to learn.  It
> > > > will require you to put down the remote
control,> > > get off the couch and
> > > > decrease your apparently frequent visits to
> > > McDonalds.  Search and find the
> > > > knowledge which you seek to ultimately fulfill
> > > your destiny; build an
> > > > Asterisk Server that works.
> > > >
> > > > Hell, we all did.
> > > >
> > > > JR
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > > Date: Wed, 31 Dec 2003 12:37:24 -0800 (PST)
> > > > > From: Me <two_shoes_2002@yahoo.com>
> > > > > To: Asterisk-Users@lists.digium.com
> > > > > Subject: [Asterisk-Users] New to asterisk?
> > > RUN... don't walk.
> > > > > Reply-To: asterisk-users@lists.digium.com
> > > > >
> > > > > As a newcomer to Asterisk, you will not be
> > > welcomed
> > > > > with open arms.  First, you will find almost
no> > > > > documentation on it's features.  Second, if
you> > > try to
> > > > > ask questions, you will be flamed and
pointed to> > > > > worthless how-tos and 'the wiki'.  These
> > > worthless
> > > > > documents can only be useful for explaining
how> > > things
> > > > > work to those already in-the-know.  Lastly,
> > > Asterisk
> > > > > is so bug ridden, expect frequent
segmentation> > > faults.
> > > > >  With a community so 'anti-n00b', don't
expect> > > your
> > > > > problems to be fixed anytime soon.
> > > > >
> > > > > RUN!!! Don't walk... away from Aterisk.
> > > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
_______________________________________________> > > > Asterisk-Users mailing list
> > > > Asterisk-Users@lists.digium.com
> > > >
> > >
> >
http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users> > > >
> > > _______________________________________________
> > > Asterisk-Users mailing list
> > > Asterisk-Users@lists.digium.com
> > >
> >
http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users> >
> >
> > __________________________________
> > Do you Yahoo!?
> > Find out what made the Top Yahoo! Searches of 2003
> > http://search.yahoo.com/top2003
> > _______________________________________________
> > Asterisk-Users mailing list
> > Asterisk-Users@lists.digium.com
> >
http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users> -- 
> Steven Critchfield <critch@basesys.com>
>
> _______________________________________________
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> Asterisk-Users@lists.digium.com
>http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users


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Josh Roberson

2004-Jan-04 04:45 UTC

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[Asterisk-Users] STOP THIS THREAD New to asterisk? RUN... don't walk.

I agree in stopping the thread, but I do have one question... What would
Qwest think of her posting to the list under a yahoo mail account
representing her company, badmouthing this community, who, in the long
run, could be VERY much worth their interest?

Hmm.... Just my $.02 - no flames please. 

--------------------------
Josh Roberson
Indigent Networks
1.877.677.9647 x1
twisted@indigent.sytes.net
> -----Original Message-----
> From: asterisk-users-admin@lists.digium.com [mailto:asterisk-users-
> admin@lists.digium.com] On Behalf Of Balaji NJL
> Sent: Saturday, January 03, 2004 8:31 PM
> To: asterisk-users@lists.digium.com
> Subject: Re: [Asterisk-Users] STOP THIS THREAD New to asterisk? RUN...
> don't walk.
> 
> Hi All,
> 
> Can we stop this thread pl. This lady has no
> intentions to learn asterisk.
> She is just a troll and wasting our time. With her
> corporate attitude, what
> she expects is support that available with paid
> commercial products. Her
> company has enough money to buy commercial products,
> let she go there. Hey
> lady, whoever u are, dont waste our time. this is not
> for u.
> 
> Lets move on to something useful pl.
> -B
> 
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Steven Critchfield" <critch@basesys.com>
> To: <asterisk-users@lists.digium.com>
> Sent: Saturday, January 03, 2004 5:36 PM
> Subject: RE: [Asterisk-Users] New to asterisk? RUN...
> don't walk.
> 
> 
> > On Sat, 2004-01-03 at 14:12, Me wrote:
> > > Mr. West,
> > >
> > > Sorry to burst your bubble, but that is not me.
> My
> > > name is Barbara Simpson.  Either you are lying or
> > > someone is trying to remove any credibility from
> my
> > > original post.  I now stand by my original post
> with
> > > more conviction than ever.
> >
> > You had little to no credibility when you show up
> acting like a troll
> > from what most people would consider a throw away
> account.
> >
> > > There were a lot of insightful replies.  However,
> none
> > > of them were able to address the real problems of
> the
> > > asterisk community and come up with solutions.  If
> you
> > > can't see your own faults, you are in for a bumpy
> > > ride.
> >
> > This is due to the problem residing in the general
> population, not the
> > community. The problem resides in users who can't be
> bothered to either
> > expend energy, or patience for the software to
> develop. Remember you
> > came here, we didn't go recruiting you. So if you
> are disappointed in
> > your experience, blame yourself for your
> expectations. As far as I can
> > tell here, you haven't paid a single person for
> anything, so any help
> > you have received has been at a cost to the other
> people of this
> > community.
> >
> > So the solution is for you to grow up. You need to
> learn that the
> > comment you have made in this thread are worthless
> as they don't advance
> > anything here. If you want credibility in a
> technical forum, you will
> > have to show some technical skills. Otherwise you
> will be cast aside and
> > hopefully ignored.
> >
> > > Barbara Simpson
> > > Qwest Voice Over Packet Services
> > >
> > > --- Brian West <brian@bkw.org> wrote:
> > > > You said it good.... Look what this person
> posted to
> > > > my blog... Now thats
> > > > what I call grown up.
> > > >
> > > > Date: Thu, 1 Jan 2004 10:10:24 -0600
> > > > From: two_shoes_2002@yahoo.com
> > > > To: brian@bkw.org
> > > >
> > > > IP Address: 24.10.200.168
> > > > Name: Jeff Sowery
> > > > Email Address: two_shoes_2002@yahoo.com
> > > > URL:
> > > >
> > > > Comments:
> > > >
> > > > You're a complete idiot.  Grow a brain or at
> least
> > > > some balls.
> > > >
> > > > -Jeff
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > NEXT!!!
> > > >
> > > > bkw
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > On Thu, 1 Jan 2004, JR Richardson wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > Piping in 2 cents,
> > > > >
> > > > > This is a great example of the Internet, Fast
> Food
> > > > generation, showing their
> > > > > appreciation for all the magic that happens in
> the
> > > > labs, hearts and minds of
> > > > > the courageous, hard working, dedicated and
> > > > motivated group of people truly
> > > > > interested and guided to accomplish greatness.
> > > > >
> > > > > This platform for learning is one of the best
> > > > tools in existence to come to
> > > > > a finite understanding of VoIP and legacy
> > > > telephony with the versatility to
> > > > > expand beyond and develop originality in the
> field
> > > > of telecommunications
> > > > > excellence, product development.  Learn it,
> > > > understand it, appreciate it,
> > > > > then take it past where you found it and if
> you're
> > > > capable contribute, if
> > > > > not, enjoy it.  But always, always maintain
> > > > respect for those who created it
> > > > > and continue to refine it.
> > > > >
> > > > > Learning is intrinsically human, and in this
> world
> > > > of Industry ("There is no
> > > > > substitution for knowledge." [Edward Deming]).
> > > > Find your inner child,
> > > > > re-capture and embrace what God has given you,
> the
> > > > ability to learn.  It
> > > > > will require you to put down the remote
> control,
> > > > get off the couch and
> > > > > decrease your apparently frequent visits to
> > > > McDonalds.  Search and find the
> > > > > knowledge which you seek to ultimately fulfill
> > > > your destiny; build an
> > > > > Asterisk Server that works.
> > > > >
> > > > > Hell, we all did.
> > > > >
> > > > > JR
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > > Date: Wed, 31 Dec 2003 12:37:24 -0800 (PST)
> > > > > > From: Me <two_shoes_2002@yahoo.com>
> > > > > > To: Asterisk-Users@lists.digium.com
> > > > > > Subject: [Asterisk-Users] New to asterisk?
> > > > RUN... don't walk.
> > > > > > Reply-To: asterisk-users@lists.digium.com
> > > > > >
> > > > > > As a newcomer to Asterisk, you will not be
> > > > welcomed
> > > > > > with open arms.  First, you will find almost
> no
> > > > > > documentation on it's features.  Second, if
> you
> > > > try to
> > > > > > ask questions, you will be flamed and
> pointed to
> > > > > > worthless how-tos and 'the wiki'.  These
> > > > worthless
> > > > > > documents can only be useful for explaining
> how
> > > > things
> > > > > > work to those already in-the-know.  Lastly,
> > > > Asterisk
> > > > > > is so bug ridden, expect frequent
> segmentation
> > > > faults.
> > > > > >  With a community so 'anti-n00b',
don't
> expect
> > > > your
> > > > > > problems to be fixed anytime soon.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > RUN!!! Don't walk... away from Aterisk.
> > > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> _______________________________________________
> > > > > Asterisk-Users mailing list
> > > > > Asterisk-Users@lists.digium.com
> > > > >
> > > >
> > >
> http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
> > > > >
> > > > _______________________________________________
> > > > Asterisk-Users mailing list
> > > > Asterisk-Users@lists.digium.com
> > > >
> > >
> http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
> > >
> > >
> > > __________________________________
> > > Do you Yahoo!?
> > > Find out what made the Top Yahoo! Searches of 2003
> > > http://search.yahoo.com/top2003
> > > _______________________________________________
> > > Asterisk-Users mailing list
> > > Asterisk-Users@lists.digium.com
> > >
> http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
> > --
> > Steven Critchfield <critch@basesys.com>
> >
> > _______________________________________________
> > Asterisk-Users mailing list
> > Asterisk-Users@lists.digium.com
> >
> http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
> 
> 
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Josh Roberson

2004-Jan-04 04:46 UTC

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[Asterisk-Users] STOP THIS THREAD New to asterisk? RUN... don't walk.

I agree in stopping the thread, but I do have one question... What would
Qwest think of her posting to the list under a yahoo mail account
representing her company, badmouthing this community, who, in the long
run, could be VERY much worth their interest?


Hmm.... Just my $.02 - no flames please. 

--------------------------
Josh Roberson
Indigent Networks
1.877.677.9647 x1
twisted@indigent.sytes.net
> -----Original Message-----
> From: asterisk-users-admin@lists.digium.com [mailto:asterisk-users-
> admin@lists.digium.com] On Behalf Of Balaji NJL
> Sent: Saturday, January 03, 2004 8:31 PM
> To: asterisk-users@lists.digium.com
> Subject: Re: [Asterisk-Users] STOP THIS THREAD New to asterisk? RUN...
> don't walk.
> 
> Hi All,
> 
> Can we stop this thread pl. This lady has no
> intentions to learn asterisk.
> She is just a troll and wasting our time. With her
> corporate attitude, what
> she expects is support that available with paid
> commercial products. Her
> company has enough money to buy commercial products,
> let she go there. Hey
> lady, whoever u are, dont waste our time. this is not
> for u.
> 
> Lets move on to something useful pl.
> -B
> 
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Steven Critchfield" <critch@basesys.com>
> To: <asterisk-users@lists.digium.com>
> Sent: Saturday, January 03, 2004 5:36 PM
> Subject: RE: [Asterisk-Users] New to asterisk? RUN...
> don't walk.
> 
> 
> > On Sat, 2004-01-03 at 14:12, Me wrote:
> > > Mr. West,
> > >
> > > Sorry to burst your bubble, but that is not me.
> My
> > > name is Barbara Simpson.  Either you are lying or
> > > someone is trying to remove any credibility from
> my
> > > original post.  I now stand by my original post
> with
> > > more conviction than ever.
> >
> > You had little to no credibility when you show up
> acting like a troll
> > from what most people would consider a throw away
> account.
> >
> > > There were a lot of insightful replies.  However,
> none
> > > of them were able to address the real problems of
> the
> > > asterisk community and come up with solutions.  If
> you
> > > can't see your own faults, you are in for a bumpy
> > > ride.
> >
> > This is due to the problem residing in the general
> population, not the
> > community. The problem resides in users who can't be
> bothered to either
> > expend energy, or patience for the software to
> develop. Remember you
> > came here, we didn't go recruiting you. So if you
> are disappointed in
> > your experience, blame yourself for your
> expectations. As far as I can
> > tell here, you haven't paid a single person for
> anything, so any help
> > you have received has been at a cost to the other
> people of this
> > community.
> >
> > So the solution is for you to grow up. You need to
> learn that the
> > comment you have made in this thread are worthless
> as they don't advance
> > anything here. If you want credibility in a
> technical forum, you will
> > have to show some technical skills. Otherwise you
> will be cast aside and
> > hopefully ignored.
> >
> > > Barbara Simpson
> > > Qwest Voice Over Packet Services
> > >
> > > --- Brian West <brian@bkw.org> wrote:
> > > > You said it good.... Look what this person
> posted to
> > > > my blog... Now thats
> > > > what I call grown up.
> > > >
> > > > Date: Thu, 1 Jan 2004 10:10:24 -0600
> > > > From: two_shoes_2002@yahoo.com
> > > > To: brian@bkw.org
> > > >
> > > > IP Address: 24.10.200.168
> > > > Name: Jeff Sowery
> > > > Email Address: two_shoes_2002@yahoo.com
> > > > URL:
> > > >
> > > > Comments:
> > > >
> > > > You're a complete idiot.  Grow a brain or at
> least
> > > > some balls.
> > > >
> > > > -Jeff
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > NEXT!!!
> > > >
> > > > bkw
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > On Thu, 1 Jan 2004, JR Richardson wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > Piping in 2 cents,
> > > > >
> > > > > This is a great example of the Internet, Fast
> Food
> > > > generation, showing their
> > > > > appreciation for all the magic that happens in
> the
> > > > labs, hearts and minds of
> > > > > the courageous, hard working, dedicated and
> > > > motivated group of people truly
> > > > > interested and guided to accomplish greatness.
> > > > >
> > > > > This platform for learning is one of the best
> > > > tools in existence to come to
> > > > > a finite understanding of VoIP and legacy
> > > > telephony with the versatility to
> > > > > expand beyond and develop originality in the
> field
> > > > of telecommunications
> > > > > excellence, product development.  Learn it,
> > > > understand it, appreciate it,
> > > > > then take it past where you found it and if
> you're
> > > > capable contribute, if
> > > > > not, enjoy it.  But always, always maintain
> > > > respect for those who created it
> > > > > and continue to refine it.
> > > > >
> > > > > Learning is intrinsically human, and in this
> world
> > > > of Industry ("There is no
> > > > > substitution for knowledge." [Edward Deming]).
> > > > Find your inner child,
> > > > > re-capture and embrace what God has given you,
> the
> > > > ability to learn.  It
> > > > > will require you to put down the remote
> control,
> > > > get off the couch and
> > > > > decrease your apparently frequent visits to
> > > > McDonalds.  Search and find the
> > > > > knowledge which you seek to ultimately fulfill
> > > > your destiny; build an
> > > > > Asterisk Server that works.
> > > > >
> > > > > Hell, we all did.
> > > > >
> > > > > JR
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > > Date: Wed, 31 Dec 2003 12:37:24 -0800 (PST)
> > > > > > From: Me <two_shoes_2002@yahoo.com>
> > > > > > To: Asterisk-Users@lists.digium.com
> > > > > > Subject: [Asterisk-Users] New to asterisk?
> > > > RUN... don't walk.
> > > > > > Reply-To: asterisk-users@lists.digium.com
> > > > > >
> > > > > > As a newcomer to Asterisk, you will not be
> > > > welcomed
> > > > > > with open arms.  First, you will find almost
> no
> > > > > > documentation on it's features.  Second, if
> you
> > > > try to
> > > > > > ask questions, you will be flamed and
> pointed to
> > > > > > worthless how-tos and 'the wiki'.  These
> > > > worthless
> > > > > > documents can only be useful for explaining
> how
> > > > things
> > > > > > work to those already in-the-know.  Lastly,
> > > > Asterisk
> > > > > > is so bug ridden, expect frequent
> segmentation
> > > > faults.
> > > > > >  With a community so 'anti-n00b',
don't
> expect
> > > > your
> > > > > > problems to be fixed anytime soon.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > RUN!!! Don't walk... away from Aterisk.
> > > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> _______________________________________________
> > > > > Asterisk-Users mailing list
> > > > > Asterisk-Users@lists.digium.com
> > > > >
> > > >
> > >
> http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
> > > > >
> > > > _______________________________________________
> > > > Asterisk-Users mailing list
> > > > Asterisk-Users@lists.digium.com
> > > >
> > >
> http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
> > >
> > >
> > > __________________________________
> > > Do you Yahoo!?
> > > Find out what made the Top Yahoo! Searches of 2003
> > > http://search.yahoo.com/top2003
> > > _______________________________________________
> > > Asterisk-Users mailing list
> > > Asterisk-Users@lists.digium.com
> > >
> http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
> > --
> > Steven Critchfield <critch@basesys.com>
> >
> > _______________________________________________
> > Asterisk-Users mailing list
> > Asterisk-Users@lists.digium.com
> >
> http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
> 
> 
> __________________________________
> Do you Yahoo!?
> New Yahoo! Photos - easier uploading and sharing.
> http://photos.yahoo.com/
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