Hello, I don't have any experience with channel banks and would appreciate any feedback on my theory outlined below: We have a single T1 entering the building with channels 1-12 being voice lines and 13-24 being a 768k internet connection. This T1 terminates to an Adit 600 (T1-1). Here's what I know. Channels 11-12 go out the Adit 600's 25-pair connector to a wiring block (and eventually to 2 fax machines - I assume this is to have the fax machines bypass the currently installed phone switch). The data comes out the Router card on the Adit and into our network. The currently installed phone system is an NEC NEAX2000 IVS box which is connected by CAT5 to the Adit 600's T1-2 port. (I am assuming that voice channels 1-10 are mapped to the Adit T1-2 and getting to the NEC this way....There is also a 25 pair cable leaving the NEC and terminating on a wiring block for the desk phones. So my assumption is that channels 1-10 are mapped as FXO onto the Adit's 2nd T1 port, channels 11-12 to the Adit's 25-pair connector and 13-24 to the router card for data. This leaves the NEC box to handle the FXS (and hence why it is directly connected to the phones). When I replace the NEC box with an * box/T100P, I'm thinking that I will have to map Channels 1-12 to the T1-2 port and map the 8 Adit FXS channels on the T1-2 port to the Adit's 25-pair for the Adit's FXS capability....then run that T1 into the T100P and configure * to route between the FXO and FXS channels appropriately. Does this sound right? I'm trying to understand if the channel bank uses the T1 from the Adit for both FXO and FXS channels! Thanks, Marty ------------------------------------------------------------------ Jumping through hoops to get E-mail on the road? You've got two choices: Join the circus, or use Molly Mail. Molly Mail -- http://www.mollymail.com ------------------------------------------------------------------ Having trouble sending email from different locations ? Need a single outgoing mail server that will work from anywhere ? Set it to smtp.com and never have to change it again ! http://www.smtp.com ------------------------------------------------------------------
On Thu, 2003-07-10 at 18:33, Marty Mastera wrote:> Hello, > > I don't have any experience with channel banks and would appreciate any > feedback on my theory outlined below: > > We have a single T1 entering the building with channels 1-12 being voice > lines and 13-24 being a 768k internet connection. This T1 terminates to > an Adit 600 (T1-1). > > Here's what I know. Channels 11-12 go out the Adit 600's 25-pair > connector to a wiring block (and eventually to 2 fax machines - I assume > this is to have the fax machines bypass the currently installed phone > switch). The data comes out the Router card on the Adit and into our network. > > The currently installed phone system is an NEC NEAX2000 IVS box which is > connected by CAT5 to the Adit 600's T1-2 port. (I am assuming that voice > channels 1-10 are mapped to the Adit T1-2 and getting to the NEC this > way....There is also a 25 pair cable leaving the NEC and terminating on a > wiring block for the desk phones. > > So my assumption is that channels 1-10 are mapped as FXO onto the Adit's > 2nd T1 port, channels 11-12 to the Adit's 25-pair connector and 13-24 to > the router card for data. > > This leaves the NEC box to handle the FXS (and hence why it is directly > connected to the phones). > > When I replace the NEC box with an * box/T100P, I'm thinking that I will > have to map Channels 1-12 to the T1-2 port and map the 8 Adit FXS > channels on the T1-2 port to the Adit's 25-pair for the Adit's FXS > capability....then run that T1 into the T100P and configure * to route > between the FXO and FXS channels appropriately. > > Does this sound right? I'm trying to understand if the channel bank uses > the T1 from the Adit for both FXO and FXS channels!This depends on what you are allowed to do and what you wish to accomplish. First: Who owns the ADIT? a. If it is your telco, then you need to find out where they think the dmark is. Basically you need to know if you can configure the ADIT. b. If you own the ADIT, then you can proceed. Second: You need to think about what you want do with it. Linux with a T100P can be your router, and therefore you can take the T1 from the wall and plug it straight into the T100P and configure linux to be your router. Then you need to bring your lines back out to go to phones. How many extension phones do you need to use, and how many FXS ports do you have on the ADIT? You mentioned only dropping 2 lines out of the ADIT currently, and you mentioned 8 FXS channels. Sounds like you will probably need more FXS cards. The downside of using linux to be your router is that you will need a second T100P or a T400P card to have enough channels to get stuff done. If you want to continue using the ADIT router, then you can route the 10 channels off the ADIT to asterisk, and then you can route up to 14 channels back to the ADIT to be combined with the 2 you already have being dropped off to the FAX machine. This means you will need to make sure you have at least 2 FXS cards. -- Steven Critchfield <critch@basesys.com>
> -----Original Message----- > From: asterisk-users-admin@lists.digium.com > [mailto:asterisk-users-admin@lists.digium.com]On Behalf Of Marty Mastera > Sent: Thursday, July 10, 2003 6:34 PM > To: asterisk-users@lists.digium.com > Subject: [Asterisk-Users] Channel Bank configuration > > > Hello, > > I don't have any experience with channel banks and would appreciate any > feedback on my theory outlined below: > > We have a single T1 entering the building with channels 1-12 being voice > lines and 13-24 being a 768k internet connection. This T1 terminates to > an Adit 600 (T1-1). > > Here's what I know. Channels 11-12 go out the Adit 600's 25-pair > connector to a wiring block (and eventually to 2 fax machines - I assume > this is to have the fax machines bypass the currently installed phone > switch). The data comes out the Router card on the Adit and into > our network. > > The currently installed phone system is an NEC NEAX2000 IVS box which is > connected by CAT5 to the Adit 600's T1-2 port. (I am assuming that voice > channels 1-10 are mapped to the Adit T1-2 and getting to the NEC this > way....There is also a 25 pair cable leaving the NEC and terminating on a > wiring block for the desk phones. > > So my assumption is that channels 1-10 are mapped as FXO onto the Adit's > 2nd T1 port, channels 11-12 to the Adit's 25-pair connector and 13-24 to > the router card for data. > > This leaves the NEC box to handle the FXS (and hence why it is directly > connected to the phones).So far so good...> > When I replace the NEC box with an * box/T100P, I'm thinking that I will > have to map Channels 1-12 to the T1-2 port and map the 8 Adit FXS > channels on the T1-2 port to the Adit's 25-pair for the Adit's FXS > capability....then run that T1 into the T100P and configure * to route > between the FXO and FXS channels appropriately.yes - map channels 1-12 to T1-2 on the Adit, but what are the "8 Adit FXS channels on the T1-2 port"? Also, what type of desk sets are you planning to use with *?> > Does this sound right? I'm trying to understand if the channel bank uses > the T1 from the Adit for both FXO and FXS channels! > > Thanks, > > Marty > > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------ > Jumping through hoops to get E-mail on the road? > You've got two choices: Join the circus, or use Molly Mail. > > Molly Mail -- http://www.mollymail.com > ------------------------------------------------------------------ > Having trouble sending email from different locations ? > Need a single outgoing mail server that will work from anywhere ? > > Set it to smtp.com and never have to change it again ! > > http://www.smtp.com > ------------------------------------------------------------------ > > > _______________________________________________ > Asterisk-Users mailing list > Asterisk-Users@lists.digium.com > http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
Steven: Thank you for your response. I do want to continue using the Adit for the data... In terms of routing the FXO, I would either want to route 1-10 from the Adit to *, or 1-12 (not sure how much I would gain/lose from having the fax and analog phone jacks direct from Adit or via *)... For the desk phones, there are only a maximum of 6 extensions, and the Adit is equipped with an 8 port FXS card. So I think what you were recommending is routing 1-10 from Adit to *, then map the 6 extensions back from * to the Adit FXS card? The Adit is provider owned and on their side of the dmark (as far as I know), so I realize that I would not be able to configure it in this case and would have to have them do it. Do this sound accurate? Thank you, Marty On 10 Jul 2003 20:58:13 -0500 Steven Critchfield wrote:> On Thu, 2003-07-10 at 18:33, Marty Mastera wrote: > > Hello, > > > > I don't have any experience with channel banks and would appreciate any > > feedback on my theory outlined below: > > > > We have a single T1 entering the building with channels 1-12 being voice > > lines and 13-24 being a 768k internet connection. This T1 terminates to > > an Adit 600 (T1-1). > > > > Here's what I know. Channels 11-12 go out the Adit 600's 25-pair > > connector to a wiring block (and eventually to 2 fax machines - I assume > > this is to have the fax machines bypass the currently installed phone > > switch). The data comes out the Router card on the Adit and into > our network. > > > > The currently installed phone system is an NEC NEAX2000 IVS box which is > > connected by CAT5 to the Adit 600's T1-2 port. (I am assuming that > voice > > channels 1-10 are mapped to the Adit T1-2 and getting to the NEC this > > way....There is also a 25 pair cable leaving the NEC and > terminating on a > > wiring block for the desk phones. > > > > So my assumption is that channels 1-10 are mapped as FXO onto the Adit's > > 2nd T1 port, channels 11-12 to the Adit's 25-pair connector and 13-24 to > > the router card for data. > > > > This leaves the NEC box to handle the FXS (and hence why it is directly > > connected to the phones). > > > > When I replace the NEC box with an * box/T100P, I'm thinking that I will > > have to map Channels 1-12 to the T1-2 port and map the 8 Adit FXS > > channels on the T1-2 port to the Adit's 25-pair for the Adit's FXS > > capability....then run that T1 into the T100P and configure * to route > > between the FXO and FXS channels appropriately. > > > > Does this sound right? I'm trying to understand if the channel > bank uses > > the T1 from the Adit for both FXO and FXS channels! > > > This depends on what you are allowed to do and what you wish to > accomplish. > First: Who owns the ADIT? > a. If it is your telco, then you need to find out where they think the > dmark is. Basically you need to know if you can configure the ADIT. > > b. If you own the ADIT, then you can proceed. > > Second: You need to think about what you want do with it. Linux with a > T100P can be your router, and therefore you can take the T1 from the > wall and plug it straight into the T100P and configure linux to be your > router. Then you need to bring your lines back out to go to phones. How > many extension phones do you need to use, and how many FXS ports do you > have on the ADIT? You mentioned only dropping 2 lines out of the ADIT > currently, and you mentioned 8 FXS channels. Sounds like you will > probably need more FXS cards. > > The downside of using linux to be your router is that you will need a > second T100P or a T400P card to have enough channels to get stuff done. > If you want to continue using the ADIT router, then you can route the 10 > channels off the ADIT to asterisk, and then you can route up to 14 > channels back to the ADIT to be combined with the 2 you already have > being dropped off to the FAX machine. This means you will need to make > sure you have at least 2 FXS cards. > -- > Steven Critchfield <critch@basesys.com> > > _______________________________________________ > Asterisk-Users mailing list > Asterisk-Users@lists.digium.com > http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users------------------------------------------------------------------ Jumping through hoops to get E-mail on the road? You've got two choices: Join the circus, or use Molly Mail. Molly Mail -- http://www.mollymail.com ------------------------------------------------------------------ Having trouble sending email from different locations ? Need a single outgoing mail server that will work from anywhere ? Set it to smtp.com and never have to change it again ! http://www.smtp.com ------------------------------------------------------------------
Hello Andy, thank you very much for your response... The "8 Adit FXS channels on T1-2" that I was referring to is the 8 port FXS card that is installed in the Adit. I was trying to describe our voice channels 1-12 entering the * box via T1-2 and having * route up to 6 extensions back via T1-2 to the Adit's 8 port FXS card and ultimately to the phones via the 25-pair connector. Is this legitimate? I may have a problem with the phones....The current phones are an NEC model (DtermE) which say "for NEC pbx only" on the back....does anyone know if they will work? Otherwise can a decent business phone be recommended (with transfer, hold, callerid, etc...capabilties)? Thanks again Andy, Marty On Thu, 10 Jul 2003 23:02:22 -0500 "Andy Hester" wrote:> > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: asterisk-users-admin@lists.digium.com > > [mailto:asterisk-users-admin@lists.digium.com]On Behalf Of Marty Mastera > > Sent: Thursday, July 10, 2003 6:34 PM > > To: asterisk-users@lists.digium.com > > Subject: [Asterisk-Users] Channel Bank configuration > > > > > > Hello, > > > > I don't have any experience with channel banks and would appreciate any > > feedback on my theory outlined below: > > > > We have a single T1 entering the building with channels 1-12 being voice > > lines and 13-24 being a 768k internet connection. This T1 terminates to > > an Adit 600 (T1-1). > > > > Here's what I know. Channels 11-12 go out the Adit 600's 25-pair > > connector to a wiring block (and eventually to 2 fax machines - I assume > > this is to have the fax machines bypass the currently installed phone > > switch). The data comes out the Router card on the Adit and into > > our network. > > > > The currently installed phone system is an NEC NEAX2000 IVS box which is > > connected by CAT5 to the Adit 600's T1-2 port. (I am assuming that > voice > > channels 1-10 are mapped to the Adit T1-2 and getting to the NEC this > > way....There is also a 25 pair cable leaving the NEC and > terminating on a > > wiring block for the desk phones. > > > > So my assumption is that channels 1-10 are mapped as FXO onto the Adit's > > 2nd T1 port, channels 11-12 to the Adit's 25-pair connector and 13-24 to > > the router card for data. > > > > This leaves the NEC box to handle the FXS (and hence why it is directly > > connected to the phones). > > So far so good... > > > > > When I replace the NEC box with an * box/T100P, I'm thinking that I will > > have to map Channels 1-12 to the T1-2 port and map the 8 Adit FXS > > channels on the T1-2 port to the Adit's 25-pair for the Adit's FXS > > capability....then run that T1 into the T100P and configure * to route > > between the FXO and FXS channels appropriately. > > yes - map channels 1-12 to T1-2 on the Adit, but what are the "8 Adit FXS > channels on the T1-2 port"? > > Also, what type of desk sets are you planning to use with *? > > > > > > Does this sound right? I'm trying to understand if the channel > bank uses > > the T1 from the Adit for both FXO and FXS channels! > > > > Thanks, > > > > Marty > > > > > > > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------ > > Jumping through hoops to get E-mail on the road? > > You've got two choices: Join the circus, or use Molly Mail. > > > > Molly Mail -- http://www.mollymail.com > > ------------------------------------------------------------------ > > Having trouble sending email from different locations ? > > Need a single outgoing mail server that will work from anywhere ? > > > > Set it to smtp.com and never have to change it again ! > > > > http://www.smtp.com > > ------------------------------------------------------------------ > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Asterisk-Users mailing list > > Asterisk-Users@lists.digium.com > > http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users > > _______________________________________________ > Asterisk-Users mailing list > Asterisk-Users@lists.digium.com > http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users------------------------------------------------------------------ Jumping through hoops to get E-mail on the road? You've got two choices: Join the circus, or use Molly Mail. Molly Mail -- http://www.mollymail.com ------------------------------------------------------------------ Having trouble sending email from different locations ? Need a single outgoing mail server that will work from anywhere ? Set it to smtp.com and never have to change it again ! http://www.smtp.com ------------------------------------------------------------------
firedude@shorelinuxsolutions.com
2003-Jul-11 06:59 UTC
[Asterisk-Users] channel bank configuration
I have a premisys slimline 24 channel fxs channel bank. I'm attempting to get it configured to work with my asterisk server. I have 2 T100P cards in the asterisk box. One is connected to an incoming pri, the second is connected to the channel bank. In my /etc/zaptel.conf file I have the line fxoks=25-48 In my zapata.conf file I have the line signaling=fxo_ks When talking to the company I bought the channel bank from, they wish to know what type of signaling the channel bank will get. Apparently their only familiar with connectling the channel bank straight to the T1 line. What type of signalling do I need to advise them that the channel bank is receiving? He advised me that they commonly see loopstart signaling. When I mentioned Koolstart to him, he was unfamiliar with it. I went with fxoks because that is what someone on the list recommended. All suggestions are appreciated. AJ
It is OK to set up your channel bank for FXS loop start and have * set up as fxo_ks. That is how mine is set up and it works fine! Don Pobanz On Friday, July 11, 2003 9:00 AM, firedude@shorelinuxsolutions.com [SMTP:firedude@shorelinuxsolutions.com] wrote:> I have a premisys slimline 24 channel fxs channel bank. I'm > attempting to > get it configured to work with my asterisk server. I have 2 T100P > cards > in the asterisk box. One is connected to an incoming pri, the second > is > connected to the channel bank. > > In my /etc/zaptel.conf file I have the line fxoks=25-48 > In my zapata.conf file I have the line signaling=fxo_ks > > When talking to the company I bought the channel bank from, they wish > to > know what type of signaling the channel bank will get. Apparently > their > only familiar with connectling the channel bank straight to the T1 > line. > What type of signalling do I need to advise them that the channelbank> is > receiving? He advised me that they commonly see loopstart signaling. > > When I mentioned Koolstart to him, he was unfamiliar with it. I went > with > fxoks because that is what someone on the list recommended. All > suggestions are appreciated. > AJ