I got a Powerbook recently and am debating buying TextMate. I installed the trial and have checked it out, but don''t see what''s so great about it. AFAICS it''s the Ruby and Rails macros for expansion and other stuff that might be it. Other than that, TextMate seems like a pretty basic editor. I currently use PSPad and Editplus, and I could probably get/make macros for those. Am I missing something about TextMate? I''ll buy it if somebody can convince me! Joe -- Posted via http://www.ruby-forum.com/.
Dude, buy TextMate. (Actually I don''t even have an Apple, but from what I hear, TextMate has like untold secrets lurking within its manual. Or something.) On 4/16/06, Joe <joe@yahoo.com> wrote:> I got a Powerbook recently and am debating buying TextMate. I installed > the trial and have checked it out, but don''t see what''s so great about > it. AFAICS it''s the Ruby and Rails macros for expansion and other stuff > that might be it. Other than that, TextMate seems like a pretty basic > editor. I currently use PSPad and Editplus, and I could probably > get/make macros for those. Am I missing something about TextMate? I''ll > buy it if somebody can convince me! > > Joe > > -- > Posted via http://www.ruby-forum.com/. > _______________________________________________ > Rails mailing list > Rails@lists.rubyonrails.org > http://lists.rubyonrails.org/mailman/listinfo/rails >-- Giles Bowkett http://www.gilesgoatboy.org http://dreamstooloud.livejournal.com/
TextMate is just a nice editor. You can open entire directories with a single command and have the whole project open at once(I know this is available in other editor''s but it just seems nicer in textMate), plus you have all of the macros. The navigation in textMate is also very clean. Read through the manual and just try it out, also it does not really cost that much so buying it is not like having to shell out the cash for PhotoShop. John On 4/16/06, Giles Bowkett <gilesb@gmail.com> wrote:> > Dude, buy TextMate. > > > > > > > > > (Actually I don''t even have an Apple, but from what I hear, TextMate > has like untold secrets lurking within its manual. Or something.) > > On 4/16/06, Joe <joe@yahoo.com> wrote: > > I got a Powerbook recently and am debating buying TextMate. I installed > > the trial and have checked it out, but don''t see what''s so great about > > it. AFAICS it''s the Ruby and Rails macros for expansion and other stuff > > that might be it. Other than that, TextMate seems like a pretty basic > > editor. I currently use PSPad and Editplus, and I could probably > > get/make macros for those. Am I missing something about TextMate? I''ll > > buy it if somebody can convince me! > > > > Joe > > > > -- > > Posted via http://www.ruby-forum.com/. > > _______________________________________________ > > Rails mailing list > > Rails@lists.rubyonrails.org > > http://lists.rubyonrails.org/mailman/listinfo/rails > > > > > -- > Giles Bowkett > http://www.gilesgoatboy.org > http://dreamstooloud.livejournal.com/ > _______________________________________________ > Rails mailing list > Rails@lists.rubyonrails.org > http://lists.rubyonrails.org/mailman/listinfo/rails >-- John Hornbeck -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://wrath.rubyonrails.org/pipermail/rails/attachments/20060417/0d70308b/attachment.html
Oh yeah, one big negative for me is that TextMate doesn''t support editing remote files (like via s/ftp). I used NetDrive on Windows. I suspect it''s possible with NFS, but I''ve never used that. Joe -- Posted via http://www.ruby-forum.com/.
I came to that very same conclusion. I prefer to use JEdit for pure editing or RadRails (since I use to use Eclipse in my Java days). scott. --- Joe <joe@yahoo.com> wrote:> I got a Powerbook recently and am debating buying > TextMate. I installed > the trial and have checked it out, but don''t see > what''s so great about > it. AFAICS it''s the Ruby and Rails macros for > expansion and other stuff > that might be it. Other than that, TextMate seems > like a pretty basic > editor. I currently use PSPad and Editplus, and I > could probably > get/make macros for those. Am I missing something > about TextMate? I''ll > buy it if somebody can convince me! > > Joe > > -- > Posted via http://www.ruby-forum.com/. > _______________________________________________ > Rails mailing list > Rails@lists.rubyonrails.org > http://lists.rubyonrails.org/mailman/listinfo/rails >---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- What''s an Intel chip doing in a Mac? A whole lor more that it''s ever done in a PC. My Digital Life - http://scottwalter.com/blog Pro:Blog - http://scottwalter.com/problog
On Mon, Apr 17, 2006 at 04:57:58AM +0200, Joe wrote:> Oh yeah, one big negative for me is that TextMate doesn''t support > editing remote files (like via s/ftp). I used NetDrive on Windows. I > suspect it''s possible with NFS, but I''ve never used that.No, and I really missed that to begin with (one of my favourite features in jEdit, for sure), but its Subversion integration is really good - not the same thing, but it is possible to set up your projects in such a way that it almost /feels/ the same... I have it working well here, using ssh tunnelling with a dedicated user on the repos box - use public key authentication, and restrict the user on the repos server so it is only allowed to run the svnserve command, and you''re good to go. Takes a bit of setting up, but it''s well worth the effort. It also means you have two copies of your project - never a bad idea, when disks are prone to badness... I can see no reason why it shouldn''t work over NFS, if you are using a reasonably up to date version to avoid file locking wobbliness. Or even SMB, if that''s your weakness. <bigup target="self">Oh yeah, and you have to buy it, coz I had a patch committed to the code base!</bigup>. Aw, c''mon, it''s a big thing for me! ;-) But apart from that, it is simply the best editor I have had the joy to discover for several years. Dan -- Daniel Bye PGP Key: ftp://ftp.slightlystrange.org/pgpkey/dan.asc PGP Key fingerprint: D349 B109 0EB8 2554 4D75 B79A 8B17 F97C 1622 166A _ ASCII ribbon campaign ( ) - against HTML, vCards and X - proprietary attachments in e-mail / \ -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: not available Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 187 bytes Desc: not available Url : http://wrath.rubyonrails.org/pipermail/rails/attachments/20060417/07d8a490/attachment.bin
There''s a plugin for Transmit which will make your big negative disappear. On 4/16/06, Joe <joe@yahoo.com> wrote:> Oh yeah, one big negative for me is that TextMate doesn''t support > editing remote files (like via s/ftp). I used NetDrive on Windows. I > suspect it''s possible with NFS, but I''ve never used that. > > Joe > > -- > Posted via http://www.ruby-forum.com/. > _______________________________________________ > Rails mailing list > Rails@lists.rubyonrails.org > http://lists.rubyonrails.org/mailman/listinfo/rails >
Joe wrote:> I got a Powerbook recently and am debating buying TextMate. I installed > the trial and have checked it out, but don''t see what''s so great about > it. AFAICS it''s the Ruby and Rails macros for expansion and other stuff > that might be it. Other than that, TextMate seems like a pretty basic > editor. I currently use PSPad and Editplus, and I could probably > get/make macros for those. Am I missing something about TextMate? I''ll > buy it if somebody can convince me!Buy TextMate or I''ll shoot this puppy! :-P I''ve been a user of BBEdit since version 1.0, and while it truly doesn''t suck, TextMate spanks it for ease of use. In terms of usability, the only place I''ve seen where BBEdit wins is in find/replace when you don''t want to search *every* file in your project. -- Josh Susser http://blog.hasmanythrough.com -- Posted via http://www.ruby-forum.com/.
I read - on TextMate''s web site, I''m pretty sure - that s/ftp support will be in the next version (which is probably a paid upgrade). It also appeared that TextMate may be merging with another editor? Joe -- Posted via http://www.ruby-forum.com/.
On Mon, Apr 17, 2006 at 04:57:58AM +0200, Joe wrote:> Oh yeah, one big negative for me is that TextMate doesn''t support > editing remote files (like via s/ftp). I used NetDrive on Windows. I > suspect it''s possible with NFS, but I''ve never used that.The sooner you get out of this method of working, and switch over to version control, the sooner you get one of the biggest productivity boosts possible to a modern programmer NOT using version control. -- -- Tom Mornini
Tom Mornini wrote:> On Mon, Apr 17, 2006 at 04:57:58AM +0200, Joe wrote: > >> Oh yeah, one big negative for me is that TextMate doesn''t support >> editing remote files (like via s/ftp). I used NetDrive on Windows. I >> suspect it''s possible with NFS, but I''ve never used that. > > The sooner you get out of this method of working, and switch over > to version control, the sooner you get one of the biggest productivity > boosts possible to a modern programmer NOT using version control. >I DO use version control. On the server. I don''t feel like checking out locally, editing, committing, updating, THEN seeing if stuff works. Joe -- Posted via http://www.ruby-forum.com/.
On Apr 16, 2006, at 10:40 PM, Joe wrote:> Tom Mornini wrote: >> On Mon, Apr 17, 2006 at 04:57:58AM +0200, Joe wrote: >> >>> Oh yeah, one big negative for me is that TextMate doesn''t support >>> editing remote files (like via s/ftp). I used NetDrive on Windows. I >>> suspect it''s possible with NFS, but I''ve never used that. >> >> The sooner you get out of this method of working, and switch over >> to version control, the sooner you get one of the biggest >> productivity >> boosts possible to a modern programmer NOT using version control. >> > > I DO use version control. On the server. I don''t feel like checking > out > locally, editing, committing, updating, THEN seeing if stuff works.Sorry for the bad assumption, I *hate* it when I do that! :-( Set up a development environment on your local box. If it''s a laptop, it''s *so* cool to be able to develop *anywhere*. It''s easy to setup a local dev environment on a Mac, particularly with Locomotive, and Rails includes fantastic support for this with environments. -- -- Tom Mornini
Joe wrote:> I got a Powerbook recently and am debating buying TextMate. I installed > the trial and have checked it out, but don''t see what''s so great about > it. AFAICS it''s the Ruby and Rails macros for expansion and other stuff > that might be it. Other than that, TextMate seems like a pretty basic > editor. I currently use PSPad and Editplus, and I could probably > get/make macros for those. Am I missing something about TextMate? I''ll > buy it if somebody can convince me! > > Joe >I don''t know if Quanta Plus runs on MacOs, but it''s all I need for web development. It''s a great editor.
Joe
Half of TextMate magic comes from its plugins/bundles.
There is one for Rails that is very promising:
http://syncpeople.com/downloads/syncpeople_on_rails_features
It brings smarter navigation, Rails scripts easy access and, my
favourite feature, "Create Partial from Selection"
TM is also very keyboard friendly. From what I''ve seen, Radrails
requires a lot of mousing (but I could be wrong).
Alain
On Apr 16, 2006, at 11:05 PM, Joe wrote:> It also > appeared that TextMate may be merging with another editor? > > JoeAh yes, SubEthaMate.... This started as a silly April Fools joke on the Textmate mailing list and it''s prolly not very good for Allan if people start spreading this around... sebastian
Sebastian Friedrich wrote:> On Apr 16, 2006, at 11:05 PM, Joe wrote: >> It also >> appeared that TextMate may be merging with another editor? >> >> Joe > > Ah yes, SubEthaMate.... This started as a silly April Fools joke on > the Textmate mailing list and it''s prolly not very good for Allan if > people start spreading this around... >Ah... Here''s the post: http://lists.macromates.com/pipermail/textmate/2006-April/009344.html Damn, I guess that means sftp support was part of the joke? Joe -- Posted via http://www.ruby-forum.com/.
It doesn''t support multi-byte! Or I will buy it without any doubt. 2006/4/17, Joe <joe@yahoo.com>:> > I got a Powerbook recently and am debating buying TextMate. I installed > the trial and have checked it out, but don''t see what''s so great about > it. AFAICS it''s the Ruby and Rails macros for expansion and other stuff > that might be it. Other than that, TextMate seems like a pretty basic > editor. I currently use PSPad and Editplus, and I could probably > get/make macros for those. Am I missing something about TextMate? I''ll > buy it if somebody can convince me! > > Joe > > -- > Posted via http://www.ruby-forum.com/. > _______________________________________________ > Rails mailing list > Rails@lists.rubyonrails.org > http://lists.rubyonrails.org/mailman/listinfo/rails >-- ?? ?????????????? ??????????????B?300? ???http://www.tongcard.com ???010-51661898 ??: yu.deng@TongCard.com -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://wrath.rubyonrails.org/pipermail/rails/attachments/20060417/29153b19/attachment.html
>>>>> "Devin" == Devin Deng <yu.deng@tongcard.com> writes:> It doesn''t support multi-byte! > Or I will buy it without any doubt.It seems to have no problems with the Chinese(?) characters at the bottom of your post. If it can do that _without_ handling multibyte characters, I''d like to know how... -- Calle Dybedahl <calle@cyberpomo.com> http://www.livejournal.com/users/cdybedahl/ "Facts are for people with weak opinions." -- Lars Willf?r, I]M
Well.. TextMate is not in any ways lightyears before any other editor. But as a text editor it just feels nicer than most. BBEdit has great power but you have to have an Phd in BBedit usage to be able to find it all. The features like bookmarking folding levels are available elsewhere but in TM it just feels natural and accessible. And yes some of the others have snippets and macros but TextMate seems to do it nicer. And I have not tested this much in the other editors but the tab jumping after you inserted the snippet seems to be much better that the others have. For example after you have inserted with autocomplete the line <div id=""> in the beginning all of the id="" is selected for if you need to remove it. But press tab again and the cursor moves to inside the "". It''s not an amazing feature but TM is full of these little things that just feel natural. So. TextMate embodies the power of Rails. Power without complexity unless complexity is needed. On 4/17/06, Joe <joe@yahoo.com> wrote:> I got a Powerbook recently and am debating buying TextMate. I installed > the trial and have checked it out, but don''t see what''s so great about > it. AFAICS it''s the Ruby and Rails macros for expansion and other stuff > that might be it. Other than that, TextMate seems like a pretty basic > editor. I currently use PSPad and Editplus, and I could probably > get/make macros for those. Am I missing something about TextMate? I''ll > buy it if somebody can convince me! > > Joe > > -- > Posted via http://www.ruby-forum.com/. > _______________________________________________ > Rails mailing list > Rails@lists.rubyonrails.org > http://lists.rubyonrails.org/mailman/listinfo/rails >-- -------------- Jon Gretar Borgthorsson http://www.jongretar.net/
Hi> It''s not an amazing feature but TM is full of these little things > that just feel natural.I can only agree with this. TextMate does not do something revolutionary but it does about everything you need and nothing more. It''s no bloatware but quick and has a cleaned up interface. The highlighting is brilliant - I don''t know any editors besides TextMate, Vim and Emacs who can do nested highlighting (like Ruby embedded in RHTML) as well as TextMate. You can use any editor to edit text. If you are willing to pay 40 EUR, however, you get a really well honed product that does its task really well and can be adjusted to the way you work pretty much via macros. Additionally, it feels like Os X more than BBEdit since it''s Cocoa and not Carbon. I just downloaded the most current demo of BBEdit and ... well importing a project of mine took about 20 seconds (I don''t feel that time when doing that with TM) and I had to chuckle at BBEdit''s highlighting: It seems to support quite a number of languages but it does neither support Ruby out of the box nor does it support nested highlighting as TM does. The author of this blog entry brings up pretty much the same points, too: http://scottstuff.net/blog/articles/2005/09/09/farewell-sweet- xemacs Regards, Manuel
2006/4/17, Joe <joe@yahoo.com>:>> I DO use version control. On the server. I don''t feel like checking out > locally, editing, committing, updating, THEN seeing if stuff works. >So you don''t use version control to help with multiple people working on the same codebase? Do you all just commit together? Or is this a sing-developer-only setup? Douglas
What editor is closest to TextMate for the PC? --------- Original Message -------- From: rails@lists.rubyonrails.org To: rails@lists.rubyonrails.org <rails@lists.rubyonrails.org> Subject: Re: [Rails] Convince me to buy TextMate! Date: 17/04/06 18:30> > Hi > > > It''s not an amazing feature but TM is full of these little things > > that just feel natural. > > I can only agree with this. TextMate does not do something > revolutionary but it does about everything you need and nothing more. > It''s no bloatware but quick and has a cleaned up interface. > > The highlighting is brilliant - I don''t know any editors besides > TextMate, Vim and Emacs who can do nested highlighting (like Ruby > embedded in RHTML) as well as TextMate. > > You can use any editor to edit text. If you are willing to pay 40 > EUR, however, you get a really well honed product that does its task > really well and can be adjusted to the way you work pretty much via > macros. > > Additionally, it feels like Os X more than BBEdit since it''s Cocoa > and not Carbon. I just downloaded the most current demo of BBEdit > and ... well importing a project of mine took about 20 seconds (I > don''t feel that time when doing that with TM) and I had to chuckle at > BBEdit''s highlighting: It seems to support quite a number of > languages but it does neither support Ruby out of the box nor does it > support nested highlighting as TM does. > > The author of this blog entry brings up pretty much the same points, > too: http://scottstuff.net/blog/articles/2005/09/09/farewell-sweet- > xemacs > > Regards, > > Manuel > _______________________________________________ > Rails mailing list > Rails@lists.rubyonrails.org > http://lists.rubyonrails.org/mailman/listinfo/rails > > > > >
On 4/17/06, Joe <joe@yahoo.com> wrote:> I DO use version control. On the server. I don''t feel like checking out > locally, editing, committing, updating, THEN seeing if stuff works.You''d gain from learning about Capistrano and getting it running. Locally: * Check out * Edit * Test locally * commit * run "cap deploy" done.
I always used UltraEdit (http://www.ultraedit.com) when I developed on Windows. It has good Ruby support and a good thing about it is that it has great userbase so you can easily download user created wordfiles, macros and more. I have not tested UEStudio though. It''s a little bit more bloated now than it was in earlier version but I found it quite usable. On 4/17/06, Ian Roke <ruby@ianroke.co.uk> wrote:> What editor is closest to TextMate for the PC? > > --------- Original Message -------- > From: rails@lists.rubyonrails.org > To: rails@lists.rubyonrails.org <rails@lists.rubyonrails.org> > Subject: Re: [Rails] Convince me to buy TextMate! > Date: 17/04/06 18:30 > > > > > Hi > > > > > It''s not an amazing feature but TM is full of these little things > > > that just feel natural. > > > > I can only agree with this. TextMate does not do something > > revolutionary but it does about everything you need and nothing more. > > It''s no bloatware but quick and has a cleaned up interface. > > > > The highlighting is brilliant - I don''t know any editors besides > > TextMate, Vim and Emacs who can do nested highlighting (like Ruby > > embedded in RHTML) as well as TextMate. > > > > You can use any editor to edit text. If you are willing to pay 40 > > EUR, however, you get a really well honed product that does its task > > really well and can be adjusted to the way you work pretty much via > > macros. > > > > Additionally, it feels like Os X more than BBEdit since it''s Cocoa > > and not Carbon. I just downloaded the most current demo of BBEdit > > and ... well importing a project of mine took about 20 seconds (I > > don''t feel that time when doing that with TM) and I had to chuckle at > > BBEdit''s highlighting: It seems to support quite a number of > > languages but it does neither support Ruby out of the box nor does it > > support nested highlighting as TM does. > > > > The author of this blog entry brings up pretty much the same points, > > too: http://scottstuff.net/blog/articles/2005/09/09/farewell-sweet- > > xemacs > > > > Regards, > > > > Manuel > > _______________________________________________ > > Rails mailing list > > Rails@lists.rubyonrails.org > > http://lists.rubyonrails.org/mailman/listinfo/rails > > > > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > Rails mailing list > Rails@lists.rubyonrails.org > http://lists.rubyonrails.org/mailman/listinfo/rails >-- -------------- Jon Gretar Borgthorsson http://www.jongretar.net/
Am 17.04.2006 um 16:33 schrieb Jon Gretar Borgthorsson:>> What editor is closest to TextMate for the PC?I guess that''s a hard question since the greatest advantage of TM - I did not mention it here yet - is that your scripts are executed in a bash. This means you can simply use your Unix skills and easily hook up any sed, perl, awk, grep, python, ruby - you name it - script or command you want. *m
James Ludlow wrote:> On 4/17/06, Joe <joe@yahoo.com> wrote: >> I DO use version control. On the server. I don''t feel like checking out >> locally, editing, committing, updating, THEN seeing if stuff works. > > You''d gain from learning about Capistrano and getting it running. > > Locally: > * Check out > * Edit > * Test locally > * commit > * run "cap deploy" > > done.I''m not interested in maintaining identical installations of Postgresql, Lighty, Mongrel, Ruby, Rails, etc. on two machines, if that''s what that entails. Joe -- Posted via http://www.ruby-forum.com/.
On Apr 17, 2006, at 11:23 AM, Joe wrote:> James Ludlow wrote: >> On 4/17/06, Joe <joe@yahoo.com> wrote: >>> I DO use version control. On the server. I don''t feel like >>> checking out >>> locally, editing, committing, updating, THEN seeing if stuff works. >> >> You''d gain from learning about Capistrano and getting it running. >> >> Locally: >> * Check out >> * Edit >> * Test locally >> * commit >> * run "cap deploy" >> >> done. > > I''m not interested in maintaining identical installations of > Postgresql, > Lighty, Mongrel, Ruby, Rails, etc. on two machines, if that''s what > that > entails.It doesn''t entail that at all. You can use any DB, including Pg, MySQL, even SQLite, and script/server is all you need for a web server. It''s *well* worth it. Take *our* words for it. :-) -- -- Tom Mornini
"An open letter to the morons that insist that TextMate kicks the shit out of BBEdit Pro 8.0" http://veraperez.com/archives/1195/ Anybody have any thoughts? Is BBEdit Pro better than TextMate? Joe -- Posted via http://www.ruby-forum.com/.
On Apr 19, 2006, at 9:26 PM, Joe wrote:> "An open letter to the morons that insist that TextMate kicks the shit > out of BBEdit Pro 8.0" > > http://veraperez.com/archives/1195/ > > Anybody have any thoughts? Is BBEdit Pro better than TextMate?I''ve used both, was a hardcore BBEdit user before TextMate. I prefer TextMate. The only things I miss are: Process Lines Containing Great feature. Yes, I could write a script for TextMate. :-) -- -- Tom Mornini
On 4/20/06, Tom Mornini <tmornini@infomania.com> wrote:> On Apr 19, 2006, at 9:26 PM, Joe wrote: > > > "An open letter to the morons that insist that TextMate kicks the shit > > out of BBEdit Pro 8.0" > > > > http://veraperez.com/archives/1195/ > > > > Anybody have any thoughts? Is BBEdit Pro better than TextMate?Err.. it''s not called "BBEdit Pro"...
Well, I gave TextMate a second try by "importing" a Rails project. I have to admit I think I like it - it feels straight-forward and clean. But the drawer screwed me up - I created a folder, then moved and/or deleted it after importing files, then it deleted the folder on my server. Grr. I also can''t figure out how to reorder the folders so they''re alphabetical. Oh yeah, I setup NFS - not difficult to do. But everytime I switch to another app, then back to TextMate, Apple''s "spinning beachball" spins for many seconds before TextMate responds again. Maybe TM is stat''ing files, or NFS'' settings could be tweaked, but it''s highly annoying as is. Joe -- Posted via http://www.ruby-forum.com/.
Joe wrote:> Oh yeah, I setup NFS - not difficult to do. But everytime I switch to > another app, then back to TextMate, Apple''s "spinning beachball" spins > for many seconds before TextMate responds again. Maybe TM is stat''ing > files, or NFS'' settings could be tweaked, but it''s highly annoying as > is.http://macromates.com/wiki/Main/FAQ#drawerupdate -- Posted via http://www.ruby-forum.com/.
Jon Bauman wrote:> Joe wrote: >> Oh yeah, I setup NFS - not difficult to do. But everytime I switch to >> another app, then back to TextMate, Apple''s "spinning beachball" spins >> for many seconds before TextMate responds again. Maybe TM is stat''ing >> files, or NFS'' settings could be tweaked, but it''s highly annoying as >> is. > > http://macromates.com/wiki/Main/FAQ#drawerupdateThanks. But I just tried that and TM still gives me the beach ball. Joe -- Posted via http://www.ruby-forum.com/.
I also tried TextMate... and it just didn''t see what made it any different than JEdit. Radrails is pretty solid when you want a bigger IDE. I go back and forth. I just can''t stand paying for something when I can get something extremely similar for free. I know, I know. But paying for a basic text editor. Something just seems wrong about that... no matter how nifty it is. Its still used in many programming books as "learn to program by writing..... a simple text editor!" /me is biased. -hampton. On 4/16/06, Joe <joe@yahoo.com> wrote:> > I got a Powerbook recently and am debating buying TextMate. I installed > the trial and have checked it out, but don''t see what''s so great about > it. AFAICS it''s the Ruby and Rails macros for expansion and other stuff > that might be it. Other than that, TextMate seems like a pretty basic > editor. I currently use PSPad and Editplus, and I could probably > get/make macros for those. Am I missing something about TextMate? I''ll > buy it if somebody can convince me! > > Joe > > -- > Posted via http://www.ruby-forum.com/. > _______________________________________________ > Rails mailing list > Rails@lists.rubyonrails.org > http://lists.rubyonrails.org/mailman/listinfo/rails >-------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://wrath.rubyonrails.org/pipermail/rails/attachments/20060420/f9000c67/attachment.html
On Apr 20, 2006, at 4:41 PM, Hampton wrote:> I know, I know. But paying for a basic text editor.Basic?> Its still used in many programming books as "learn to program by > writing..... a simple text editor!"TextMate is decidedly not "simple text editor". P.S. How many man-hours have gone into emacs? If writing a text editor was simple, it should have been "done" a long time ago, right? P.P.S. I''m cheap too. However, there are many ways to be cheap. I bought TextMate because it allowed me to make more money in less time. Being cheap with time is the ultimate form of cheap. :-) -- -- Tom Mornini
Hampton wrote:> I also tried TextMate... and it just didn''t see what made it any > different > than JEdit. Radrails is pretty solid when you want a bigger IDE. I go > back > and forth. > > I just can''t stand paying for something when I can get something > extremely > similar for free. > > I know, I know. But paying for a basic text editor. Something just seems > wrong about that... no matter how nifty it is. Its still used in many > programming books as "learn to program by writing..... a simple text > editor!" > > /me is biased. > > -hampton.Wow, JEdit seems to have a lot of stuff! I''m checking it out now. For me, an editor NEEDS s/ftp support. It appears such is planned for RadRails 0.7, which in itself seems to be shaping up to be quite an IDE. Using NFS with editors appears to be too painful. And at my current location, the firewall is blocking mount. Joe -- Posted via http://www.ruby-forum.com/.
On Apr 20, 2006, at 5:24 PM, Joe wrote:> For me, an editor NEEDS s/ftp support.http://www.43folders.com/2006/03/02/transmit-remote-editing/ -- -- Tom Mornini
Tom Mornini wrote:> On Apr 20, 2006, at 5:24 PM, Joe wrote: > >> For me, an editor NEEDS s/ftp support. > > http://www.43folders.com/2006/03/02/transmit-remote-editing/ > > -- > -- Tom MorniniAh, thanks. I tried Cyberduck (free!) and it offers remote editing too. Joe -- Posted via http://www.ruby-forum.com/.
Joe wrote:> Jon Bauman wrote: >> Joe wrote: >>> Oh yeah, I setup NFS - not difficult to do. But everytime I switch to >>> another app, then back to TextMate, Apple''s "spinning beachball" spins >>> for many seconds before TextMate responds again. Maybe TM is stat''ing >>> files, or NFS'' settings could be tweaked, but it''s highly annoying as >>> is. >> >> http://macromates.com/wiki/Main/FAQ#drawerupdate > > Thanks. But I just tried that and TM still gives me the beach ball. > > JoeAfter scouring the Internet and trying a great many things - various FTP clients, NFS, investigating other DFS''s, searching for Netdrive/Fuse -like Mac programs, etc. - I think I have found a way to make TextMate update remote files in a way I can live with: http://enure.net/post/article/using-rsync-to-enable-the-project-drawer-in-textmate-while-working-on-a-remote-server I removed ''--delete'' from rsync, so session, log, etc. files don''t get deleted, and added ''--exclude=.*'' so local .svn directories and .DS_Store files don''t get uploaded. Joe -- Posted via http://www.ruby-forum.com/.
Do you have a good wordfile for UE to use with .rhtml files? On 4/17/06, Jon Gretar Borgthorsson <jon.borgthorsson@gmail.com> wrote:> > I always used UltraEdit (http://www.ultraedit.com) when I developed on > Windows. It has good Ruby support and a good thing about it is that it > has great userbase so you can easily download user created wordfiles, > macros and more. I have not tested UEStudio though. > > It''s a little bit more bloated now than it was in earlier version but > I found it quite usable. > > On 4/17/06, Ian Roke <ruby@ianroke.co.uk> wrote: > > What editor is closest to TextMate for the PC? > > > > --------- Original Message -------- > > From: rails@lists.rubyonrails.org > > To: rails@lists.rubyonrails.org <rails@lists.rubyonrails.org> > > Subject: Re: [Rails] Convince me to buy TextMate! > > Date: 17/04/06 18:30 > > > > > > > > Hi > > > > > > > It''s not an amazing feature but TM is full of these little things > > > > that just feel natural. > > > > > > I can only agree with this. TextMate does not do something > > > revolutionary but it does about everything you need and nothing more. > > > It''s no bloatware but quick and has a cleaned up interface. > > > > > > The highlighting is brilliant - I don''t know any editors besides > > > TextMate, Vim and Emacs who can do nested highlighting (like Ruby > > > embedded in RHTML) as well as TextMate. > > > > > > You can use any editor to edit text. If you are willing to pay 40 > > > EUR, however, you get a really well honed product that does its task > > > really well and can be adjusted to the way you work pretty much via > > > macros. > > > > > > Additionally, it feels like Os X more than BBEdit since it''s Cocoa > > > and not Carbon. I just downloaded the most current demo of BBEdit > > > and ... well importing a project of mine took about 20 seconds (I > > > don''t feel that time when doing that with TM) and I had to chuckle at > > > BBEdit''s highlighting: It seems to support quite a number of > > > languages but it does neither support Ruby out of the box nor does it > > > support nested highlighting as TM does. > > > > > > The author of this blog entry brings up pretty much the same points, > > > too: http://scottstuff.net/blog/articles/2005/09/09/farewell-sweet- > > > xemacs > > > > > > Regards, > > > > > > Manuel > > > _______________________________________________ > > > Rails mailing list > > > Rails@lists.rubyonrails.org > > > http://lists.rubyonrails.org/mailman/listinfo/rails > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Rails mailing list > > Rails@lists.rubyonrails.org > > http://lists.rubyonrails.org/mailman/listinfo/rails > > > > > -- > -------------- > Jon Gretar Borgthorsson > http://www.jongretar.net/ > _______________________________________________ > Rails mailing list > Rails@lists.rubyonrails.org > http://lists.rubyonrails.org/mailman/listinfo/rails >-- seth at subimage interactive http://www.subimage.com/sublog/ -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://wrath.rubyonrails.org/pipermail/rails/attachments/20060530/aae150a4/attachment.html
Check out: http://brosinski.com/stephan/2005/06/14/ruby-on-rails-development-on-windows/ A bunch of good info on configuring UE. An alternative is here: http://www.ocssolutions.com/support/ruby/config-ue-for-rails.php On 5/30/06, subimage interactive <subimage@gmail.com> wrote:> Do you have a good wordfile for UE to use with .rhtml files? > > > On 4/17/06, Jon Gretar Borgthorsson <jon.borgthorsson@gmail.com > wrote: > > > I always used UltraEdit (http://www.ultraedit.com ) when I developed on > Windows. It has good Ruby support and a good thing about it is that it > has great userbase so you can easily download user created wordfiles, > macros and more. I have not tested UEStudio though. > > It''s a little bit more bloated now than it was in earlier version but > I found it quite usable. > > On 4/17/06, Ian Roke <ruby@ianroke.co.uk> wrote: > > What editor is closest to TextMate for the PC? > > > > --------- Original Message -------- > > From: rails@lists.rubyonrails.org > > To: rails@lists.rubyonrails.org <rails@lists.rubyonrails.org> > > Subject: Re: [Rails] Convince me to buy TextMate! > > Date: 17/04/06 18:30 > > > > > > > > Hi > > > > > > > It''s not an amazing feature but TM is full of these little things > > > > that just feel natural. > > > > > > I can only agree with this. TextMate does not do something > > > revolutionary but it does about everything you need and nothing more. > > > It''s no bloatware but quick and has a cleaned up interface. > > > > > > The highlighting is brilliant - I don''t know any editors besides > > > TextMate, Vim and Emacs who can do nested highlighting (like Ruby > > > embedded in RHTML) as well as TextMate. > > > > > > You can use any editor to edit text. If you are willing to pay 40 > > > EUR, however, you get a really well honed product that does its task > > > really well and can be adjusted to the way you work pretty much via > > > macros. > > > > > > Additionally, it feels like Os X more than BBEdit since it''s Cocoa > > > and not Carbon. I just downloaded the most current demo of BBEdit > > > and ... well importing a project of mine took about 20 seconds (I > > > don''t feel that time when doing that with TM) and I had to chuckle at > > > BBEdit''s highlighting: It seems to support quite a number of > > > languages but it does neither support Ruby out of the box nor does it > > > support nested highlighting as TM does. > > > > > > The author of this blog entry brings up pretty much the same points, > > > too: > http://scottstuff.net/blog/articles/2005/09/09/farewell-sweet- > > > xemacs > > > > > > Regards, > > > > > > Manuel > > > _______________________________________________ > > > Rails mailing list > > > Rails@lists.rubyonrails.org > > > http://lists.rubyonrails.org/mailman/listinfo/rails > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Rails mailing list > > Rails@lists.rubyonrails.org > > http://lists.rubyonrails.org/mailman/listinfo/rails > > > > > -- > -------------- > Jon Gretar Borgthorsson > http://www.jongretar.net/ > _______________________________________________ > > Rails mailing list > Rails@lists.rubyonrails.org > http://lists.rubyonrails.org/mailman/listinfo/rails > > > > > -- > seth at subimage interactive > http://www.subimage.com/sublog/ > > _______________________________________________ > Rails mailing list > Rails@lists.rubyonrails.org > http://lists.rubyonrails.org/mailman/listinfo/rails > > >-- -------------- Jon Gretar Borgthorsson http://www.jongretar.net/