Are there any instructions along with Xen demo CD. I tried it but the GUI is unfamiliar to me ( I''ve used KDE ), right or left clicking didn''t bring up any menus. I am pretty much lost as to how to proceed. I''d like set up a couple logical volumes ( is LVM there on the demo CD ) and install a couple of different distros and run them under Xen. Any pointers will be highly appreciated. Another question, if I want a graphical environment for my guests, where does the X server run in a Xen environment ? In dom0, domu or both ? Thanks in advance Khalid _______________________________________________ Xen-users mailing list Xen-users@lists.xensource.com http://lists.xensource.com/xen-users
> Are there any instructions along with Xen demo CD. I tried it but the > GUI is unfamiliar to me ( I''ve used KDE ), right or left clicking > didn''t bring up any menus. I am pretty much lost as to how toThe demo CD comes with Enlightenment and Windowmaker. Documentation for these window managers can be found on the internet.> proceed. I''d like set up a couple logical volumes ( is LVM there on > the demo CD ) and install a couple of different distros and run themThe XenLinux kernel on the demo CD does indeed have LVM support, but if you''re going to be installing things on disk anyway I suggest you install proper Xen rather than trying to run from the demo CD.> Another question, if I want a graphical environment for my guests, > where does the X server run in a Xen environment ? In dom0, domu or > both ? Thanks in advanceAt the moment the only sensible place to run an X server is in dom0. However, the demo CD has guest domains start Xvnc, so a VNC client running on the X server in dom0 can show you the graphical output of each domU. This is a little fiddly to set up but might be useful depending on what you want to do. Have fun experimenting with Xen. -- "The rules of programming are transitory; only Tao is eternal. Therefore you must contemplate Tao before you receive enlightenment." "How will I know when I have received enlightenment?" asked the novice. "Your program will then run correctly," replied the master. _______________________________________________ Xen-users mailing list Xen-users@lists.xensource.com http://lists.xensource.com/xen-users
Thanks Dan for your reply. Here are a few more questions / concerns:>> proceed. I''d like set up a couple logical volumes ( is LVM there on >> the demo CD ) and install a couple of different distros and run them >The XenLinux kernel on the demo CD does indeed have LVM support, but if >you''re going to be installing things on disk anyway I suggest you >install proper Xen rather than trying to run from the demo CD.I''d definitely like to install dom0 on the disk but I don''t want to install any bloated distibution that comes with everything under the sun and requires many GB of disk space, tons of memory and lots of cpu cycles. In my opinion dom0 should only have the things needed to run Xen. I tried Xenophilia but that''s still a work in progress. Is there any other distro you can recomend for this purpose ?>At the moment the only sensible place to run an X server is in dom0. >However, the demo CD has guest domains start Xvnc, so a VNC client >running on the X server in dom0 can show you the graphical output of >each domU. This is a little fiddly to set up but might be useful >depending on what you want to do.You said "At the moment", does it mean there is a better solution under development ? Can you give some pointers to it? I browsed realvnc site to get an idea about it. From what I can gather it seems to be something to be able to view a desktop remotely on another machine but the documentation didn''t say that you don''t run X on the machine being accessed, may be I missed it. Anyway not running X on user domains will save some resources. All I''m trying to do is to set up a development environment where I''ll have a database server, an application/web server and a development machine. This last one has to have GUI the first two may not.> >Have fun experimenting with Xen.I''m having fun and I sincerely appreciate all the work that you guys are putting into it. Thanks Khalid _______________________________________________ Xen-users mailing list Xen-users@lists.xensource.com http://lists.xensource.com/xen-users
Hi! M. Khalid Khan wrote:> Thanks Dan for your reply. Here are a few more questions / concerns: > >>> proceed. I''d like set up a couple logical volumes ( is LVM there on >>> the demo CD ) and install a couple of different distros and run them >> >> The XenLinux kernel on the demo CD does indeed have LVM support, but if >> you''re going to be installing things on disk anyway I suggest you >> install proper Xen rather than trying to run from the demo CD. > > > I''d definitely like to install dom0 on the disk but I don''t want to > install any bloated distibution that comes with everything under the > sun and requires many GB of disk space, tons of memory and lots of cpu > cycles. In my opinion dom0 should only have the things needed to run > Xen. I tried Xenophilia but that''s still a work in progress. Is there > any other distro you can recomend for this purpose ? >I''m successfully using Debian with LVM on my server. With Debian you just install what you need. My dom0 is LVM-enabled and exports LVM partions the the domU(s). Memory allocated to dom0 is 128MB (probably needs to be reduced later;)) My domUs are MailServer and WebServer, 64MB and 80MB RAM respectively. More domUs are in the process of being built (inc. bluetooth proxy server for ipaq web browsing)>> At the moment the only sensible place to run an X server is in dom0. >> However, the demo CD has guest domains start Xvnc, so a VNC client >> running on the X server in dom0 can show you the graphical output of >> each domU. This is a little fiddly to set up but might be useful >> depending on what you want to do. > > > You said "At the moment", does it mean there is a better solution > under development ? Can you give some pointers to it? I browsed > realvnc site to get an idea about it. From what I can gather it seems > to be something to be able to view a desktop remotely on another > machine but the documentation didn''t say that you don''t run X on the > machine being accessed, may be I missed it. Anyway not running X on > user domains will save some resources. > All I''m trying to do is to set up a development environment where I''ll > have a database server, an application/web server and a development > machine. This last one has to have GUI the first two may not. >At the moment I believe that there isn''t proper support for agp in domU, (I''m under the impression this will change in Xen 3.0) so the solution is to run a VNC server in the domU (which runs X without a display), and view it from dom0 using a VNC client (ie. using X WITH a display!). Personally prefer running freenx (nomachine.org) for a number of reasons including speed and encryption. However it can be harder to setup, esp. if you''re not running Debian! :) Using your requirements you could probably do this: dom0 - running X with VNC viewer: domU1 - Database server domU2 - application/web server domU3 - development machine running X with VNC server>> >> Have fun experimenting with Xen. > > > I''m having fun and I sincerely appreciate all the work that you guys > are putting into it. > Thanks > KhalidYep, Xen is a fantastic invention! (Although the concept can be hard to explain at times! lol) Marcus. _______________________________________________ Xen-users mailing list Xen-users@lists.xensource.com http://lists.xensource.com/xen-users