I dont mean to beat a dead horse here but I just dont know what to do. As every one here knows that pulseaudio does not work correctly with wine........ok that is cool but when the wine developers say just dont use pulseaudio that would be an glorious thing. But as most of us casual linux users have to work around for hours just to fail then revert back to windows ( I am not doing that but I am just saying). Wine to me is a way to help linux users to get the MS monkey off their back. But with short answers that developers are giving is not helping the community. I mean after all if it was not for the people like me trying new alternatives, the wine development team really does not need to even be working on this stuff anymore. They just need to find a job working for Microsoft or what not. ( Rant over) So could the developers please tell me what distro they are using so that I will not have all the bugs that everyone else is having. I have looked at over 100 distros and pretty much every one uses pulseaudio now. Even Xubuntu uses it now. SO if someone could tell me what distro the developers use that does not use pulseaudio natively, i would be more than happy to use it. I just want the old gnome setup like 7.04 alsa only was. So can anyone help? Or point me to a surefire way to set up a new distro back to the good old days without pulseaudio?
On 11/28/2011 01:23 PM, Fred_E_Krugar wrote:> I have looked at over 100 distros and pretty much every one uses pulseaudio now. Even Xubuntu uses it now. SO if someone could tell me what distro the developers use that does not use pulseaudio natively, i would be more than happy to use it. I just want the old gnome setup like 7.04 alsa only was.I am not in any way a dev, hopefully someone else shares an opinion for you. I see a couple alternatives. You can go with a source based, build-it-into-what-you-want distro such as gentoo or arch and only put on your machine what you want it to have (such as an older version of gnome, or a gnome base made without pulse). Or you can pick a window manager other than gnome. I may be wrong, but I think any current gnome based distro will have pulse tightly built into it. I have not heard of a recent one that does not, but I also have not gone looking for one.
Agreed, I find it that, after a while, you either turn to Gentoo or Arch to tune your machines to yourself. It might be a good idea, indeed.
I have used arch it was about three years ago. There was a pdf on how to do it step by step, now if I could only find it again. So is pulse embeded into gnome now? I was thinking on using KDE but I think pulse has spread into it as well( correct me if I am wrong), the problem in the past with KDE was multiple monitor problems. Which is the reason I stoped using it, I believe it started with KDE 4. SO you guys think arch is the way to go. My only problem with gentoo or arch is that I am so accustomed to using (.deb).
> So is pulse embeded into gnome now?gnome-3 requires pulseaudio even on gentoo. John
Well this is just Craptastic. Who is this pulseaudio group.I mean this is just getting redonkulis. Its starting to sound a little like........lets say iPod........Apple says if you want to put any music on it you have to use iTunes..........hmmmmmmm.So if ya want the new gnome.....no if and or buts you will be using pulseaudio. Now where is this love of freedom to chose?
Am 29.11.2011 06:00, schrieb Fred_E_Krugar:> So is pulse embeded into gnome now? I was thinking on using KDE but I >think pulse has spread into it as well( correct me if I am wrong),Nope KDE runs just fine with just ALSA. KDE (at least version 3.x) earlier had a sound server called arts which got replaced by phonon in KDE4 which is just a tiny layer able to use different backends. Personally, as a distribution I would clearly recommend Debian. But this is a matter of taste and there is not one single solution for everyone I believe. Kind Regards Helmut
Don't know if this helps, but I am running opensuse 12.1 with KDE 4.7.2; it is using alsa drivers and the sound works fine in Wine. I just upgraded from 11.4 where I had Civ4 installed in Wine and the sound worked just fine. I didn't do anything to make it so, I just installed Civ4 and mods just like I would in Windows and it worked. Sure it will work in 12.1 also.
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