Okay, I've learned this much so far: Others have made this happen, but details are weak or missing Installer method won't work. It wants to register some stuff during setup, and there is no Registxry under Linux. Some have copied the installed version from Windows to Linux or Ubuntu. Now that works. Details are again skinpy or left out, and that leaves me stuck for the moment. Maybe someone can help about having wine set up right, and getting the EMBIRD32.EXE file to execute.
> Installer method won't work. It wants to register some stuff during setup, and there is no Registxry under Linux.There is in Wine. Just run the installer as you would in Windows. http://wiki.winehq.org/FAQ#head-f3515230c198befe0279d32c448d9c8da63be66f> Some have copied the installed version from Windows to Linux or Ubuntu. Now that works.So what exactly is the problem?> Maybe someone can help about having wine set up right, and getting the EMBIRD32.EXE file to execute.http://wiki.winehq.org/FAQ
Oh, now this is really good. All my fault because I did not read everything on the subject first. I have a whole book of stuff I printed off on wine a couple of years ago, and it kept going about, about, and about. Never an answer one, and nothing to tell you what factors to weigh in trying to put things together. Gave up, and finally went with VM, which is largely just set up and use, especially VirtualBox. Works, too. Back here for exactly three reasons: (1) People say it can be done and that it works weill, (2) they also say the installer does not owrk, and (3) that just putting a Windows-installed copy of Embird under Wine is all it takes. And what I am getting from you is that no, you have to run the installer first, which is exactly opposite of what others have said on the subject, and they should know, they claim to have done it. I was just trying to find out what I am still not getting right, and all I get from someone who hasn't even tried it is that it can't be done thw way I describe. Now how do you know? Oh, that's right. You are the expert. Man, I just love this. It;s back to dealing with people who got certified and that makes them better than those that have been getting the job done without them. You think I don't know what an installer is for? But if there are those that maintain the installer is not absolutely essential in a case like this, then I would say that this might be worth checking out. See, early on in my career, everything was built of discrete components, and we learned circuitry and could trace signals. When I got exposed to integrated circitry, that wasn't possible any more, so you just dealt with behavour of function. In fact, you often had to rely on spare parts and moving things around to figure out just where the problem was. What I am trying to go on here is that there are claims that what I am trying to do should work. At least for some versions of Embird. And if it works, and does all that is expected of it, then the actions of the installer are apparently unnecessary. Now one thing that the Embird Installer needs to do is create extension associations for itself in the Registry. Without a Registry or a process to match up associations, the program has to be called up manually, not by just clicking on an embroidery file. Maybe wine does make of a Registry. I see three .REG files now, and so I could be mislead in that regard. And maybe there is a revised installer for Embird that works with wine. That would be nice too. But I can't see any way to run down those possibilities from AppDB.
As to your mention of AppDB, I got to it, but that was about all. nothing i tried did anything or took me any place. Not sure if there is anything there or not. Embird is a great embroidery program, and more recent versions add a digitizer as well. Some programs run into thousands of dollars. My wife got hers for about $60. The newer versons are about twice that. So I am trying to this for her. Something else you said sounds encouraging, because they represent things to do and try. I will do that, as soon as I find out what is meant and really involved. Since you have made it clear that wine does involve a Registry of sorts, that means another program might be made to work there as well. I am referring to IncrediMail XE. Once people use IM, they don;t want to settle for anything lesser. Lots of graphics and animation included. And very heavy use of the Registry for just about everything, including user account info. In fact, that makes it completely unsecure, so it is out for business use. Some sites block its traffic, but you can always elect to just use text emila. The free version is very good in most respects, and the paid for eversion is supposedly better. The www.winehq.org site still baffles me. That's not your doing, but it does mean that I haven;t found ways to get any real benefit from it yet, except to post the original request. Not even exactly sure how I managed to do that. These reply links work fine to get back here after I get something started, but I bet the real thing I am missing out oun is what is in AppDB. WQell, maybe with some more effort it will startx to make sense. Your comment on input and output levels is of course correct, but otten testing levels involves special connectore and releate equipment. Wich adequate spares on hand, he best way is to swap out half the components and see whaqt impact that has. If none, then problem is probably in the remaining half. If it changes, the problem appears to be tied up in the ones swapped out. Each time you settle on a half, you next change out just half of that number, until you are down to one. This is an application of the binary method, or divide by two. It is effective, and it can be fast. But it does require that the equipment be out of service while you are using it.
Embird seems pretty straightforward, with little or no demand on the Registry. As I stated, it does allow embroideru files with different extentions to be used to call it up automatically. It also uees a built-in icon displayer called Iconizer to show those patters as file icons. And it uses a file (you tell it where) for the product key that allows you to have full use of it. The file goes by the name Password.ini. The ntdll.dll error reported before also gives am address that is related. It may indicate a failed call to one of the built-in functions or subs in ntdll.dll. Hard to tell what that might be. I find Windows 2000 Pro to be a good and useful OS, personally preferred over WinXP because it completely lacks a validation process. Also, many drivers and patches for WinXP also apply to Win2k. But it is getting quite a bit tougher to put either on a modern hardware PC. The Ubuntu + VirtualBox combo can get you around those issues. But it is not perfect. The screen can stop updating on the host side, and that means acting to get it going again, while on the client side the keyboard can lock up if unused for some minutes. With multiple software pieces involved, what do you point to as the likely cause? I have no answer for that, so if I can cut out VirtualBox and Windows, my wife might be a good bit happier. At least I am willing to give it a try. I have no idea how the wine implementation of the Registry compares to the Windows approach. IncrediMail XE really puts a lot in the Registry that needs to be referenced during use. The Registry is therefore absolutely essential to installing and using this program.
James McKenzie wrote:> oldefoxx wrote: > > Try putting it in C:/Program\ Files/ instead of c: > > The program may be looking for a .dll through a relative path and that > may be causing the error. > > James McKenziezi follow what you are saying, but there was nothing to guide me in this matter, and folder names with spaces in them are a bit tricky to deal with in Linux, or Ubuntu in this case. For instance, I would never think to use aq c:/Program \Files to handle this, and no idea why it might work or what it really means is lost on me. As to getting the Embrd800.exe, I don't think it is available online anymore. I just use the copy I downloaded for my wife years ago. It is only a demo until you get what they refer to as the password, and that activates all paid for features. I did find an earlier Embird 7.x version at several archives, but when I searched for it again, I was finally directed here: http://www.embird.com/sw/embird/oldfiles.htm. I don't think there is an evident way there through the main page. I don't get asked by the installer where I want the install to go. Normally you have a choice of drive or directory, but I don't see that happening here. Another odd thing is that each effort to try and get Embird up and running, which it won't do for some unspecified error (I mean it reports the error, but there is quite a bit involved and I;m not going to specify it myself on this go around). But here is something else that is happening: I get a growing list of Embird entries in the list where you can choose which application to open a file with. You know, bu pointing to the file and using the right mouse button. I have no idea why they kept getting added but i checked under .local/share/applications and found a slew of wine-extention-###-desktop entriesm where the ### was either three letters or three digits. The letter combos might be representative of embroidery file extentions, Not sure why three digits, Anywaym I did a rm -R ./wine-* and it not only got rid of these, but what now shows up under the list for choose another application looks right now. It is possible, I suppose, that someone else is emulating XP rather than 2000, and I could attempt the same, if I knew how to configure wine. Every time I try to use Configure Wine, it goes off somewhere for awhile, then comes back, and nothing has happened. The advice about using apt-get install wine1.2 instead of the other variations finally paid off in that no conflicts reported at the end.It can be tricky to guess what to try on the next go around. I guess that is going to have to do it for the night. I'm struggling to get this done while also drifting off to sleep.
Thanks. I appreciate the continued interest and effort. I've removed and reinstalled wine several times, and somewhere along the way I got a message box with Windows 2000 in it. It is difficult to sort it out now in looking back. XP, eh? Now you would think that would work, being further along than 2000. Still, what works with one generally works with the other. Winecfg. I will go with that on my next go around. My sister-in-law's PC is reportedly ailing in that the Windows client under VirtualBox will not start up, with a message that a SYS file is either missing or corrupted. I just love how on target some of the messages are. You know, with \I386 as one of the drive folders, they could not think to fix problems like this automatically when they show up? Instead, people are forced to turn to others that might have more experience, and have to pay for it as well. So I will get back on this soonest. Matter of priorities right now. If I could get completely away from Windows, that would be something to look forward to.