Vorbis - Jul 2001 - Re: [advocacy] current tshirt/slogan submissions

Two notes on my T-shirt design...

  Had I known there was an official logo/font for the Ogg Vorbis and Xiph I
would have used it. Sorry if this causes any problems. :o)

#ifdef Stand_on_SoapBox

  As for the phenomenon vs. standard I think I may want to explain. It seems
that whenever the media reports on Ogg (or ANY open source project for that
matter) they often use the word phenomenon to describe it. Phenomenon in the
sense that a successful open source project is a bizarre, random and obscure
event. As if to say "Take a good look while you can, because you'll
never
see this again." I don't know about you, but I find this rather
irritating.
I wanted to stress that open source is not something that is just out there
for college students to experiment with, but rather a tool that it being
used to set *standards* and raise the bar of quality in the software
development community. I imagine that I'm preaching to the choir though...

#end if

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Don't worry Reuben, I understood exactly what you meant, when I saw the
shirt design.

----- Original Message -----
From: "Reuben Martin" <rmartin@BRRARCH.COM>
To: <vorbis@xiph.org>
Sent: Monday, July 16, 2001 10:48 AM
Subject: Re: [vorbis] Re: [advocacy] current tshirt/slogan submissions
> Two notes on my T-shirt design...
>
>   Had I known there was an official logo/font for the Ogg Vorbis and Xiph
I
> would have used it. Sorry if this causes any problems. :o)
>
> #ifdef Stand_on_SoapBox
>
>   As for the phenomenon vs. standard I think I may want to explain. It
seems
> that whenever the media reports on Ogg (or ANY open source project for
that
> matter) they often use the word phenomenon to describe it. Phenomenon in
the
> sense that a successful open source project is a bizarre, random and
obscure
> event. As if to say "Take a good look while you can, because
you'll never
> see this again." I don't know about you, but I find this rather
irritating.
> I wanted to stress that open source is not something that is just out
there
> for college students to experiment with, but rather a tool that it being
> used to set *standards* and raise the bar of quality in the software
> development community. I imagine that I'm preaching to the choir
though...
>
> #end if
>
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On Monday 16 July 2001 16:48, Reuben Martin wrote:
>   As for the phenomenon vs. standard I think I may want to explain. It
> seems that whenever the media reports on Ogg (or ANY open source project
> for that matter) they often use the word phenomenon to describe it...
Yes, but you can't put something on a shirt that most people who see it need
an explanation for.

Chad used the phrase "to spread the ogg" today on IRC. I think he
didn't
think about the shirt when he said it, but this sounds like something that 
can be on a shirt. 
He (tm) (c) (gpl)'ed it, so anyone can use it in a shirt design.

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On Mon, Jul 16, 2001 at 09:48:09AM -0500, Reuben Martin
wrote:
> Two notes on my T-shirt design...
> 
>   Had I known there was an official logo/font for the Ogg Vorbis and Xiph I
> would have used it. Sorry if this causes any problems. :o)
> 
> #ifdef Stand_on_SoapBox
> 
>   As for the phenomenon vs. standard I think I may want to explain. It
seems
> that whenever the media reports on Ogg (or ANY open source project for that
> matter) they often use the word phenomenon to describe it. Phenomenon in
the
> sense that a successful open source project is a bizarre, random and
obscure
> event. As if to say "Take a good look while you can, because
you'll never
> see this again." I don't know about you, but I find this rather
irritating.
> I wanted to stress that open source is not something that is just out there
> for college students to experiment with, but rather a tool that it being
> used to set *standards* and raise the bar of quality in the software
> development community. I imagine that I'm preaching to the choir
though...
> 
> #end if
My only objection to 'phenomenon' was the syllabic length of the word. 
I suggest 'movement' to replace it.

Monty

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