samba - Jun 2018 - chrony configuration for secondary samba DC

On 3 June 2018 at 17:54, Rowland Penny via samba <samba at
lists.samba.org>
wrote:
> On Sun, 3 Jun 2018 18:45:37 +0300
> Alexei Rozenvaser <alexei.roz at gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > How you so sure about it?
> > Even at https://packages.ubuntu.com/bionic/samba chrony mentioned as
> > suggested related package
> > .
>
> Ubuntu can recommend what they like, but Samba only recommends and
> supports ntpd.
>
> You can use whatever you like, but you cannot get support here for
> chrony.
>
> Rowland Penny: Samba team member
>
>
>
Guys, stop pissing off Rowland, please, we still need him here tomorrow.
When Rowland feels it's necessary to state that he's a Samba team
member,
you just know you crossed the line  ;-)

Joking aside, there seems to be some confusion about the terminology.
"Works with" and "Supported by" are two entirely different
things. You can
do tons of things with Samba that are great and work just fine. Just be
aware that as soon as you deviate from the standard as it is described in
the (very helpful) Samba Wiki, you're unlikely to get answers to your
issues on this list. The same goes for almost any other software package,
by the way.

Viktor

I feel threaten by authority, in my first post at this mail-list.
I'd better shut up.
On Sun, Jun 3, 2018 at 7:29 PM Viktor Trojanovic via samba
<samba at lists.samba.org> wrote:
>
> On 3 June 2018 at 17:54, Rowland Penny via samba <samba at
lists.samba.org>
> wrote:
>
> > On Sun, 3 Jun 2018 18:45:37 +0300
> > Alexei Rozenvaser <alexei.roz at gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> > > How you so sure about it?
> > > Even at https://packages.ubuntu.com/bionic/samba chrony mentioned
as
> > > suggested related package
> > > .
> >
> > Ubuntu can recommend what they like, but Samba only recommends and
> > supports ntpd.
> >
> > You can use whatever you like, but you cannot get support here for
> > chrony.
> >
> > Rowland Penny: Samba team member
> >
> >
> >
> Guys, stop pissing off Rowland, please, we still need him here tomorrow.
> When Rowland feels it's necessary to state that he's a Samba team
member,
> you just know you crossed the line  ;-)
>
> Joking aside, there seems to be some confusion about the terminology.
> "Works with" and "Supported by" are two entirely
different things. You can
> do tons of things with Samba that are great and work just fine. Just be
> aware that as soon as you deviate from the standard as it is described in
> the (very helpful) Samba Wiki, you're unlikely to get answers to your
> issues on this list. The same goes for almost any other software package,
> by the way.
>
> Viktor
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-- 
Alexei Rozenvaser

>I feel threaten by authority, in my first post at this mail-list. I'd
better shut up.
There's no threat.
I just want to point out that you're asking for help and you're [perhaps
unfortunately] dependant on the good-will of those offering free support.
If you want to get help that's more tailored to you and your desired
environment, you can pay for support. Sernet offers just that. [And I'm sure
there are many other places you can go to get help too.]

I'd even guess that, if you offered to pay RP $500/hr for his help, he'd
be glad to do most anything you want that he's competent to do - including
trying to make chrony [or some other ntp package] work.

But to cut down on the time required to help people FOR FREE, there has to be
some limit to the variations supported on the list. If you want to play outside
that scope it's going to be something you invest your time in, rather than
expecting others to respond to your unusual environment. [Even if that different
environment scope may well be ultimately good for the community.]

Rowland's been involved in Samba since the first 4.0.0 versions rolled out.
[Perhaps even longer, but that's my awareness of his presence here...]

I did a fair bit of tinkering [and helped on the list/wifi] back then, but faded
away, for years. It's kind of hard to see people lob rocks at a guy who has
been so consistently giving of his time to help people on the list.

I'm just trying to remind people to be gracious and nice. Rowland's done
WAY MORE than his fair share.

-Greg