samba - Jun 2018 - chrony configuration for secondary samba DC

How you so sure about it?
Even at https://packages.ubuntu.com/bionic/samba chrony mentioned as
suggested related package
.
On Sun, Jun 3, 2018 at 6:13 PM Rowland Penny via samba
<samba at lists.samba.org> wrote:
>
> On Sun, 3 Jun 2018 16:59:38 +0200
> Reindl Harald via samba <samba at lists.samba.org> wrote:
>
> >
> >
> > Am 03.06.2018 um 16:48 schrieb Rowland Penny via samba:
> > > On Sun, 3 Jun 2018 17:37:45 +0300
> > > Alexei Rozenvaser <alexei.roz at gmail.com> wrote:
> > >
> > >> The output is:
> > >> alexei at ubuntu-dc:~$ sudo samba -b | grep 'SIGND'
> > >>    NTP_SIGND_SOCKET_DIR: /var/lib/samba/ntp_signd
> > >
> > > First three letters are NTP and at the moment, Samba only
supports
> > > the use of ntp, whilst other time servers may claim to work with
a
> > > Samba DC, they are not supported
> >
> > please don't confuse ntp as protocol and ntpd as implementation
> > "Samba only supports the use of ntp" is nonsense
>
> No it isn't Reindl, I am not saying that you cannot use another time
> server, all I am saying is that Samba only supports the use of the ntpd
> from ntp.org.
>
> Rowland
>
>
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Alexei Rozenvaser

On Sun, 3 Jun 2018 18:45:37 +0300
Alexei Rozenvaser <alexei.roz at gmail.com> wrote:
> How you so sure about it?
> Even at https://packages.ubuntu.com/bionic/samba chrony mentioned as
> suggested related package
> .
Ubuntu can recommend what they like, but Samba only recommends and
supports ntpd.

You can use whatever you like, but you cannot get support here for
chrony.

Rowland Penny: Samba team member

On 3 June 2018 at 17:54, Rowland Penny via samba <samba at
lists.samba.org>
wrote:
> On Sun, 3 Jun 2018 18:45:37 +0300
> Alexei Rozenvaser <alexei.roz at gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > How you so sure about it?
> > Even at https://packages.ubuntu.com/bionic/samba chrony mentioned as
> > suggested related package
> > .
>
> Ubuntu can recommend what they like, but Samba only recommends and
> supports ntpd.
>
> You can use whatever you like, but you cannot get support here for
> chrony.
>
> Rowland Penny: Samba team member
>
>
>
Guys, stop pissing off Rowland, please, we still need him here tomorrow.
When Rowland feels it's necessary to state that he's a Samba team
member,
you just know you crossed the line  ;-)

Joking aside, there seems to be some confusion about the terminology.
"Works with" and "Supported by" are two entirely different
things. You can
do tons of things with Samba that are great and work just fine. Just be
aware that as soon as you deviate from the standard as it is described in
the (very helpful) Samba Wiki, you're unlikely to get answers to your
issues on this list. The same goes for almost any other software package,
by the way.

Viktor

Am 03.06.2018 um 17:54 schrieb Rowland Penny via samba:
> On Sun, 3 Jun 2018 18:45:37 +0300
> Alexei Rozenvaser <alexei.roz at gmail.com> wrote:
> 
>> How you so sure about it?
>> Even at https://packages.ubuntu.com/bionic/samba chrony mentioned as
>> suggested related package
>> .
> 
> Ubuntu can recommend what they like, but Samba only recommends and
> supports ntpd.
no, you think so, you even maybe right but all you do in this thread is
stating personal opinions

NTP is defined in IETF RFC's and a decadesa old protocol and unless you
can point out a technical reason or even a protocol violation of
whatever implementation or that samba relies on a protocol violation
other implementations don't support samba supports NTP as a prococol and
not a specific implementation

just because you didn't try something don't say anything about technical
supported - NTP is not a C library with a API samba is linked against
and franly given that most distributions switching away from ntp.org
it's time to even *officailyl support* chrony which is the default
implementation in the Redhat world too, not only Ubuntu
> You can use whatever you like, but you cannot get support here for
> chrony.
this is still a *users* list
> Rowland Penny: Samba team member
don't make personal options a technical fact