i wanted to setup a samba4 domain, however i had a couple of questions: 1. i was thinking of using centos, however was curious what linux distro most people use. ie what most of the samba4 documentation is written for? 2. i had read that there isn't much support for user land programs for setting up samba4 and account administration, and that swat isn't emplimented yet; how dated / acurate is this information? 3. i don't have a domain name (fqdn) at this site. is there a way to setup a domain without owning a fqdn? 4. if i download and setup samba4 from cvs; how stable is it currently, what changes might be made that would effect a current configuration, or what might a future release break in current cvs. 5. how far is current cvs from being samba4-stable? (estimated date and feature set) thanx darkhaven (aka - shawn wilson / ag4ve) __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com
On Thu, 2006-08-17 at 12:00 -0700, Shawn Wilson wrote:> i wanted to setup a samba4 domain, however i had a couple of questions: > 1. i was thinking of using centos, however was curious what linux distro most > people use. ie what most of the samba4 documentation is written for? > 2. i had read that there isn't much support for user land programs for setting > up samba4 and account administration, and that swat isn't emplimented yet; how > dated / acurate is this information? > 3. i don't have a domain name (fqdn) at this site. is there a way to setup a > domain without owning a fqdn? > 4. if i download and setup samba4 from cvs; how stable is it currently, what > changes might be made that would effect a current configuration, or what might > a future release break in current cvs. > 5. how far is current cvs from being samba4-stable? (estimated date and feature > set)Shawn, Samba4 is still experimental, while we try to keep it as stable as possible and subsystems tend do be stable, there is still a lot to do, and we may break compatibility with any existing installation. We are still working out some details on password management for example, and it is likely that we will change the directory attributes and formats used to store passwords in the future. Also we still have to address replication issues, so achieving that functionality may also require breaking compatibility with a previous samba4 snapshot. We don;t have decent administration tools yet, but you should be able to use a Windows workstation and point to the server to be able to administer it with MS native tools (For users and groups at least). That said, you don;t need a real domain name to experiment you can use a name of your choice with the suffix .local About stability, I can say that the code compiles and passes all make and torture tests, but, as said, we do not guarantee any forward/backward compatibility at this point. So getting it from our SVN tree can be a nice experiment, but you may require to re-install to use a later version. Simo. -- Simo Sorce Samba Team GPL Compliance Officer email: idra@samba.org http://samba.org
-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 Shawn Wilson wrote:> 5. how far is current cvs from being samba4-stable? > (estimated date and feature set)This is a blurb I put in the upcoming 3rd edition of "Using Samba" (O'Reilly). Hope it helps clarify things. cheers, jerry - ---------- "Samba Domains: NT 4.0 or Active Directory?" Before we dive into the technical details of Samba's domain controller functionality, it is important to understand what a Samba domain is and is not and where the project is headed. Samba 3.0 can act as a Windows NT 4.0 domain controller with one major exceptions. It does not implement the Windows System Account Manager (SAM) replication protocol. This means that it cannot participate as a domain controller with Windows DCs including mixed-mode Active Directory domains. Samba 3.0 cannot at this time act as a domain controller for an Active Directory domain. However, active research in this area is ongoing under the guise of Samba 4. There has been a great deal of confusion about the relationship between Samba 3 and Samba 4. Both source code repositories are part of the Samba project. Samba 3.0 is the current production branch while Samba 4 is the research branch focused on new functionality to be integrated into the production releases once it has matured. The real question everyone asks is "When will Samba 4 be released?" The truth of the matter is that Samba 4 is a blueprint of where Samba as a project wants to go. Of course, blueprints often require a prototype and therefore developers will releases technical previews of the Samba 4 branch from time to time as a way to expose designs to a wider audience. Some prototypes work while others are thrown away. At some point the production releases of Samba will look like these working prototypes. Whether this occurs gradually or all at once is yet to be seen. Pieces of Samba 4 have already been released as production quality services. For example, the samba4wins project (http://enterprisesamba.org/) provides a WINS server that supports the Microsoft WINS replication protocol. Other pieces, such as Samba 4's memory management library, are shipping in Samba 3.0 today. It likely that Samba 4 in whole or in part will continue to co-exist with Samba 3.0 for several years to come. Who knows what release will contain the combined features of Samba 3.0 and technology of Samba 4 - ---------------- ====================================================================Samba ------- http://www.samba.org Centeris ----------- http://www.centeris.com "What man is a man who does not make the world better?" --Balian -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.2 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with SUSE - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFE5ToJIR7qMdg1EfYRAnlJAKCKjTh4+natPbfYbZSqsWpau95ECQCfVfFh EfXL1BnIy1+WC9TAs4BgAM4=QbH1 -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----