samba - May 2003 - windows file compatibility aka A Cry For Help

Everything is going amazing in the windows->samba conversion until I ran
into a roadblock..I really dont know what may be going on so I will outline
it as best as I can.

We have a program called realty toolkit which saves its configuration and
security settings onto the network.  Well, after putting the files onto the
linux box, it no loger wants to work, the security check fails.

calling the vendor they asked 'is there any compression' because they
have
seen this behavior with compressed drives, and thier explanation is 'toolkit
looks for a specific file geometry and compression throws that off'  -- so
my interpretation is that the file has to be written correctly when read

I can only guess that samba stores it a bit different, and therefore the
geometry is off...

Does this make any sense? or is this way off and it is a different problem
that can be fixed???

Other than that the implementation is running great!

I've seen some older programs not handle Network shares over 2GB. I would
try to limit the max disk size reported to 2GB.

In your smb.conf in the [global] section add

	max disk size = 2000

and see if that fixes it. I usually see this on some installers as they
think that if it's over 2GB or space that it thinks it's 0 space free.
(Runs
out of bits.) Hope this helps.

	-Scott Shackelford


> -----Original Message-----
> From: samba-bounces+scott=customtransport.com@lists.samba.org
> [mailto:samba-bounces+scott=customtransport.com@lists.samba.org]On
> Behalf Of Chris McKeever
> Sent: Friday, May 09, 2003 4:38 PM
> Cc: 'samba@lists.samba.org'
> Subject: [Samba] windows file compatibility aka A Cry For Help
>
>
> Everything is going amazing in the windows->samba conversion until I ran
> into a roadblock..I really dont know what may be going on so I
> will outline
> it as best as I can.
>
> We have a program called realty toolkit which saves its configuration and
> security settings onto the network.  Well, after putting the
> files onto the
> linux box, it no loger wants to work, the security check fails.
>
> calling the vendor they asked 'is there any compression' because
they have
> seen this behavior with compressed drives, and thier explanation
> is 'toolkit
> looks for a specific file geometry and compression throws that off'  --
so
> my interpretation is that the file has to be written correctly when read
>
> I can only guess that samba stores it a bit different, and therefore the
> geometry is off...
>
> Does this make any sense? or is this way off and it is a different problem
> that can be fixed???
>
> Other than that the implementation is running great!
> --
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gave it a shot...no go .. will keep toying with it!

Thanks for the suggestion
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Scott Shackelford [mailto:scott@customtransport.com]
> Sent: Friday, May 09, 2003 4:06 PM
> To: samba@lists.samba.org
> Subject: RE: [Samba] windows file compatibility aka A Cry For Help
> 
> 
> I've seen some older programs not handle Network shares over 
> 2GB. I would
> try to limit the max disk size reported to 2GB.
> 
> In your smb.conf in the [global] section add
> 
> 	max disk size = 2000
> 
> and see if that fixes it. I usually see this on some 
> installers as they
> think that if it's over 2GB or space that it thinks it's 0 
> space free. (Runs
> out of bits.) Hope this helps.
> 
> 	-Scott Shackelford
> 
> 
> 
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: samba-bounces+scott=customtransport.com@lists.samba.org
> > [mailto:samba-bounces+scott=customtransport.com@lists.samba.org]On
> > Behalf Of Chris McKeever
> > Sent: Friday, May 09, 2003 4:38 PM
> > Cc: 'samba@lists.samba.org'
> > Subject: [Samba] windows file compatibility aka A Cry For Help
> >
> >
> > Everything is going amazing in the windows->samba 
> conversion until I ran
> > into a roadblock..I really dont know what may be going on so I
> > will outline
> > it as best as I can.
> >
> > We have a program called realty toolkit which saves its 
> configuration and
> > security settings onto the network.  Well, after putting the
> > files onto the
> > linux box, it no loger wants to work, the security check fails.
> >
> > calling the vendor they asked 'is there any compression' 
> because they have
> > seen this behavior with compressed drives, and thier explanation
> > is 'toolkit
> > looks for a specific file geometry and compression throws 
> that off'  -- so
> > my interpretation is that the file has to be written 
> correctly when read
> >
> > I can only guess that samba stores it a bit different, and 
> therefore the
> > geometry is off...
> >
> > Does this make any sense? or is this way off and it is a 
> different problem
> > that can be fixed???
> >
> > Other than that the implementation is running great!
> > --
> > To unsubscribe from this list go to the following URL and read the
> > instructions:  http://lists.samba.org/mailman/listinfo/samba
> >
> 
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I think I have narrowed it down to needing the archive and hidden bit
set..any ideas how to mimic this through a samba share...

thanks!!!
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Chris McKeever [mailto:tech-mail@prupref.com]
> Sent: Friday, May 09, 2003 4:17 PM
> To: 'Scott Shackelford'; samba@lists.samba.org
> Subject: RE: [Samba] windows file compatibility aka A Cry For Help
> 
> 
> gave it a shot...no go .. will keep toying with it!
> 
> Thanks for the suggestion
> 
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Scott Shackelford [mailto:scott@customtransport.com]
> > Sent: Friday, May 09, 2003 4:06 PM
> > To: samba@lists.samba.org
> > Subject: RE: [Samba] windows file compatibility aka A Cry For Help
> > 
> > 
> > I've seen some older programs not handle Network shares over 
> > 2GB. I would
> > try to limit the max disk size reported to 2GB.
> > 
> > In your smb.conf in the [global] section add
> > 
> > 	max disk size = 2000
> > 
> > and see if that fixes it. I usually see this on some 
> > installers as they
> > think that if it's over 2GB or space that it thinks it's 0 
> > space free. (Runs
> > out of bits.) Hope this helps.
> > 
> > 	-Scott Shackelford
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: samba-bounces+scott=customtransport.com@lists.samba.org
> > >
[mailto:samba-bounces+scott=customtransport.com@lists.samba.org]On
> > > Behalf Of Chris McKeever
> > > Sent: Friday, May 09, 2003 4:38 PM
> > > Cc: 'samba@lists.samba.org'
> > > Subject: [Samba] windows file compatibility aka A Cry For Help
> > >
> > >
> > > Everything is going amazing in the windows->samba 
> > conversion until I ran
> > > into a roadblock..I really dont know what may be going on so I
> > > will outline
> > > it as best as I can.
> > >
> > > We have a program called realty toolkit which saves its 
> > configuration and
> > > security settings onto the network.  Well, after putting the
> > > files onto the
> > > linux box, it no loger wants to work, the security check fails.
> > >
> > > calling the vendor they asked 'is there any compression' 
> > because they have
> > > seen this behavior with compressed drives, and thier explanation
> > > is 'toolkit
> > > looks for a specific file geometry and compression throws 
> > that off'  -- so
> > > my interpretation is that the file has to be written 
> > correctly when read
> > >
> > > I can only guess that samba stores it a bit different, and 
> > therefore the
> > > geometry is off...
> > >
> > > Does this make any sense? or is this way off and it is a 
> > different problem
> > > that can be fixed???
> > >
> > > Other than that the implementation is running great!
> > > --
> > > To unsubscribe from this list go to the following URL and read
the
> > > instructions:  http://lists.samba.org/mailman/listinfo/samba
> > >
> > 
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I think I need to use the map hidden and map archive...so I have to play
with attributes...

!!!
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Chris McKeever 
> Sent: Friday, May 09, 2003 5:01 PM
> To: Chris McKeever; 'Scott Shackelford'; samba@lists.samba.org
> Subject: RE: [Samba] windows file compatibility aka A Cry For Help
> 
> 
> I think I have narrowed it down to needing the archive and 
> hidden bit set..any ideas how to mimic this through a samba share...
> 
> thanks!!!
> 
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Chris McKeever [mailto:tech-mail@prupref.com]
> > Sent: Friday, May 09, 2003 4:17 PM
> > To: 'Scott Shackelford'; samba@lists.samba.org
> > Subject: RE: [Samba] windows file compatibility aka A Cry For Help
> > 
> > 
> > gave it a shot...no go .. will keep toying with it!
> > 
> > Thanks for the suggestion
> > 
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: Scott Shackelford [mailto:scott@customtransport.com]
> > > Sent: Friday, May 09, 2003 4:06 PM
> > > To: samba@lists.samba.org
> > > Subject: RE: [Samba] windows file compatibility aka A Cry For
Help
> > > 
> > > 
> > > I've seen some older programs not handle Network shares over 
> > > 2GB. I would
> > > try to limit the max disk size reported to 2GB.
> > > 
> > > In your smb.conf in the [global] section add
> > > 
> > > 	max disk size = 2000
> > > 
> > > and see if that fixes it. I usually see this on some 
> > > installers as they
> > > think that if it's over 2GB or space that it thinks it's
0
> > > space free. (Runs
> > > out of bits.) Hope this helps.
> > > 
> > > 	-Scott Shackelford
> > > 
> > > 
> > > 
> > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > From:
samba-bounces+scott=customtransport.com@lists.samba.org
> > > > 
> [mailto:samba-bounces+scott=customtransport.com@lists.samba.org]On
> > > > Behalf Of Chris McKeever
> > > > Sent: Friday, May 09, 2003 4:38 PM
> > > > Cc: 'samba@lists.samba.org'
> > > > Subject: [Samba] windows file compatibility aka A Cry For
Help
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Everything is going amazing in the windows->samba 
> > > conversion until I ran
> > > > into a roadblock..I really dont know what may be going on so
I
> > > > will outline
> > > > it as best as I can.
> > > >
> > > > We have a program called realty toolkit which saves its 
> > > configuration and
> > > > security settings onto the network.  Well, after putting the
> > > > files onto the
> > > > linux box, it no loger wants to work, the security check
fails.
> > > >
> > > > calling the vendor they asked 'is there any
compression'
> > > because they have
> > > > seen this behavior with compressed drives, and thier
explanation
> > > > is 'toolkit
> > > > looks for a specific file geometry and compression throws 
> > > that off'  -- so
> > > > my interpretation is that the file has to be written 
> > > correctly when read
> > > >
> > > > I can only guess that samba stores it a bit different, and 
> > > therefore the
> > > > geometry is off...
> > > >
> > > > Does this make any sense? or is this way off and it is a 
> > > different problem
> > > > that can be fixed???
> > > >
> > > > Other than that the implementation is running great!
> > > > --
> > > > To unsubscribe from this list go to the following URL 
> and read the
> > > > instructions:  http://lists.samba.org/mailman/listinfo/samba
> > > >
> > > 
> > > -- 
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>

ok that worked swell...
but now I have a new issue that arose from all the permission changes.

I have a shared folder that is a sub-folder of another share.  Do I need to
just open the permissions to world readable in order for the sub-folder to
be usable when connected directly

[admin]
        comment = branch administrative share
        path = /samba/admin
        browseable = yes
        public = no
        read only = yes
        valid users = @a-team @m-team @domain-admins
        write list = @a-team @m-team @domain-admins
        oplocks = no
        level2 oplocks = no
        force directory mode = 0770
        create mask = 0771
        force group = a-team

[agent]
        comment = branch file share
        path = /samba/admin/agent-share
        browseable = yes
        public = yes
        read only = no
        oplocks = no
        level2 oplocks = no
        force directory mode = 0770
        create mask = 0771
        force group = domain-users

so basically, if someone creates a file in \\server\agent\agent-share it
will be only accessbile by a-team so if someone connects to \\server\agent
that inst in a-team, they can't do anything with it...

so I guess I need to either break the two apart or just open up world
permissions, or force group to domain-users

or am I missing something here?

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Chris McKeever [mailto:tech-mail@prupref.com]
> Sent: Friday, May 09, 2003 5:31 PM
> To: 'Scott Shackelford'; samba@lists.samba.org
> Subject: RE: [Samba] windows file compatibility aka A Cry For Help
> 
> 
> I think I need to use the map hidden and map archive...so I 
> have to play
> with attributes...
> 
> !!!
> 
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Chris McKeever 
> > Sent: Friday, May 09, 2003 5:01 PM
> > To: Chris McKeever; 'Scott Shackelford'; samba@lists.samba.org
> > Subject: RE: [Samba] windows file compatibility aka A Cry For Help
> > 
> > 
> > I think I have narrowed it down to needing the archive and 
> > hidden bit set..any ideas how to mimic this through a samba share...
> > 
> > thanks!!!
> > 
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: Chris McKeever [mailto:tech-mail@prupref.com]
> > > Sent: Friday, May 09, 2003 4:17 PM
> > > To: 'Scott Shackelford'; samba@lists.samba.org
> > > Subject: RE: [Samba] windows file compatibility aka A Cry For
Help
> > > 
> > > 
> > > gave it a shot...no go .. will keep toying with it!
> > > 
> > > Thanks for the suggestion
> > > 
> > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > From: Scott Shackelford [mailto:scott@customtransport.com]
> > > > Sent: Friday, May 09, 2003 4:06 PM
> > > > To: samba@lists.samba.org
> > > > Subject: RE: [Samba] windows file compatibility aka A 
> Cry For Help
> > > > 
> > > > 
> > > > I've seen some older programs not handle Network shares
over
> > > > 2GB. I would
> > > > try to limit the max disk size reported to 2GB.
> > > > 
> > > > In your smb.conf in the [global] section add
> > > > 
> > > > 	max disk size = 2000
> > > > 
> > > > and see if that fixes it. I usually see this on some 
> > > > installers as they
> > > > think that if it's over 2GB or space that it thinks
it's 0
> > > > space free. (Runs
> > > > out of bits.) Hope this helps.
> > > > 
> > > > 	-Scott Shackelford
> > > > 
> > > > 
> > > > 
> > > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > > From:
samba-bounces+scott=customtransport.com@lists.samba.org
> > > > > 
> > [mailto:samba-bounces+scott=customtransport.com@lists.samba.org]On
> > > > > Behalf Of Chris McKeever
> > > > > Sent: Friday, May 09, 2003 4:38 PM
> > > > > Cc: 'samba@lists.samba.org'
> > > > > Subject: [Samba] windows file compatibility aka A Cry
For Help
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > Everything is going amazing in the windows->samba 
> > > > conversion until I ran
> > > > > into a roadblock..I really dont know what may be going
on so I
> > > > > will outline
> > > > > it as best as I can.
> > > > >
> > > > > We have a program called realty toolkit which saves its
> > > > configuration and
> > > > > security settings onto the network.  Well, after
putting the
> > > > > files onto the
> > > > > linux box, it no loger wants to work, the security 
> check fails.
> > > > >
> > > > > calling the vendor they asked 'is there any
compression'
> > > > because they have
> > > > > seen this behavior with compressed drives, and thier 
> explanation
> > > > > is 'toolkit
> > > > > looks for a specific file geometry and compression
throws
> > > > that off'  -- so
> > > > > my interpretation is that the file has to be written 
> > > > correctly when read
> > > > >
> > > > > I can only guess that samba stores it a bit different,
and
> > > > therefore the
> > > > > geometry is off...
> > > > >
> > > > > Does this make any sense? or is this way off and it is
a
> > > > different problem
> > > > > that can be fixed???
> > > > >
> > > > > Other than that the implementation is running great!
> > > > > --
> > > > > To unsubscribe from this list go to the following URL 
> > and read the
> > > > > instructions: 
http://lists.samba.org/mailman/listinfo/samba
> > > > >
> > > > 
> > > > -- 
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