samba - Jan 2003 - So SAMBA no longer supports print driver downloads

So SAMBA no longer supports print driver downloads.  That is about the 
only conclusion that I can come to at this point.  I've not been able to get
Windows printer driver downloads to work right since Samba 2.2.2.
	
	No one but printer admins displays the correct settings for printers, 
everyone else gets the original printer defaults that they cannot change.
	
	I've tried this with every version since 2.2.2 up to 2.2.7a and the 
story is the same - printer settings get lost.
	
	I've built from scratch.  I've taken a working 2.2.2 set-up, verified 
that the drivers loaded correctly for clients, upgraded the server to 2.2.7a and
had all the settings get lost.
	
	Does anyone *REALLY* have downloading printer drivers to Windows 2000 
clients working properly?  Has anyone documented the steps as the ones in the 
available documentation DON'T work?
	
	My apologies for sounding so pissy, I've been fighting with this for 
some time and this mailing list has been strangely silent when I've asked
for
help - except for other people writing me and asking me if I've found a
solution
because they are having the same problem.
	
	Anyone have suggestions?
	
	To the developers:  You are doing a HELL of a GREAT job - and I say that 
even with the level of fustration i've got going right now.
	
	I hear that some de-caf is just as good as regular coffee...
	
	-Bob Martel
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Robert M. Martel [bob@urban.csuohio.edu] wrote:
> 
> 
> 	So SAMBA no longer supports print driver downloads.  That is about the 
> only conclusion that I can come to at this point.  I've not been able
to get
> Windows printer driver downloads to work right since Samba 2.2.2.
> 	
> 	No one but printer admins displays the correct settings for printers, 
> everyone else gets the original printer defaults that they cannot change.
> 	
> 	I've tried this with every version since 2.2.2 up to 2.2.7a and the 
> story is the same - printer settings get lost.
> 	
> 	I've built from scratch.  I've taken a working 2.2.2 set-up,
verified
> that the drivers loaded correctly for clients, upgraded the server to
2.2.7a and
> had all the settings get lost.
> 	
> 	Does anyone *REALLY* have downloading printer drivers to Windows 2000 
> clients working properly?  Has anyone documented the steps as the ones in
the
> available documentation DON'T work?
I wanted to say that I had problems up to the time I upgraded to .7a
three offices All 2000 clients, XP hates me, but then again XP hates everyone
when
it comes to printing.
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I really do have print drivers going to my Windows 2000 clients.  I am using
2.2.7  I created a print$ share and gave everyone read access to it. I then gave
write access.
check out this page it has a lot of good info I didn't go so far as creating
a way to add or delete printers remotely, just did the drivers section.  Hope it
helps

http://samba.linuxbe.org/en/samba/learn/printing.html

-----Original Message-----
From: Robert M. Martel [mailto:bob@urban.csuohio.edu]
Sent: Wednesday, January 29, 2003 1:59 PM
To: samba@lists.samba.org
Subject: [Samba] So SAMBA no longer supports print driver downloads




	So SAMBA no longer supports print driver downloads.  That is about the 
only conclusion that I can come to at this point.  I've not been able to get
Windows printer driver downloads to work right since Samba 2.2.2.
	
	No one but printer admins displays the correct settings for printers, 
everyone else gets the original printer defaults that they cannot change.
	
	I've tried this with every version since 2.2.2 up to 2.2.7a and the 
story is the same - printer settings get lost.
	
	I've built from scratch.  I've taken a working 2.2.2 set-up, verified 
that the drivers loaded correctly for clients, upgraded the server to 2.2.7a and
had all the settings get lost.
	
	Does anyone *REALLY* have downloading printer drivers to Windows 2000 
clients working properly?  Has anyone documented the steps as the ones in the 
available documentation DON'T work?
	
	My apologies for sounding so pissy, I've been fighting with this for 
some time and this mailing list has been strangely silent when I've asked
for
help - except for other people writing me and asking me if I've found a
solution
because they are having the same problem.
	
	Anyone have suggestions?
	
	To the developers:  You are doing a HELL of a GREAT job - and I say that 
even with the level of fustration i've got going right now.
	
	I hear that some de-caf is just as good as regular coffee...
	
	-Bob Martel
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On Wednesday 29 January 2003 22:59, Robert M. Martel
wrote:
> So SAMBA no longer supports print driver downloads.  That is about the
> only conclusion that I can come to at this point.  I've not been able
to
> get Windows printer driver downloads to work right since Samba 2.2.2.
>
> 	No one but printer admins displays the correct settings for printers,
> everyone else gets the original printer defaults that they cannot change.
>
> 	I've tried this with every version since 2.2.2 up to 2.2.7a and the
> story is the same - printer settings get lost.
>
> 	I've built from scratch.  I've taken a working 2.2.2 set-up,
verified
> that the drivers loaded correctly for clients, upgraded the server to
> 2.2.7a and had all the settings get lost.
>
> 	Does anyone *REALLY* have downloading printer drivers to Windows 2000
> clients working properly?  Has anyone documented the steps as the ones in
> the available documentation DON'T work?
>
> 	My apologies for sounding so pissy, I've been fighting with this for
> some time and this mailing list has been strangely silent when I've
asked
> for help - except for other people writing me and asking me if I've
found a
> solution because they are having the same problem.
>
> 	Anyone have suggestions?
>
I have much trouble with drivers from HP.
The drivers that come with w2k XP works.
If you have to use the drivers from the manufakturer of the
printer try the default devmode parameter in smb.conf
to initialize the driver. Once done you can remove
the default devmode from smb.conf.

Just a try, has worked for me with HP Deskjet 970 driver.

Didi

>  I have much trouble with drivers from HP.
>  The drivers that come with w2k XP works.
>  If you have to use the drivers from the manufakturer of the
>  printer try the default devmode parameter in smb.conf
>  to initialize the driver. Once done you can remove
>  the default devmode from smb.conf.
>  
>  Just a try, has worked for me with HP Deskjet 970 driver.
>  
>  Didi 

	Dietrich,
	
	Thanks for the note.  I will look into this.  I still perplexed that the 
driver download settings were OK for printer admins, but messed-up for regular 
users.  This looks like the same problem going back to Samba versions prior to 
2.2.2, problems which I had thought fixed.
	
	-Bob
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On Wed, 29 Jan 2003, Robert M. Martel wrote:
> So SAMBA no longer supports print driver downloads.  That is about the
> only conclusion that I can come to at this point.  I've not been able
to
> get Windows printer driver downloads to work right since Samba 2.2.2.
>
> No one but printer admins displays the correct settings for printers,
> everyone else gets the original printer defaults that they cannot
> change.
Did you initialize the driver bound to the printer?
> Does anyone *REALLY* have downloading printer drivers to Windows 2000
> clients working properly?  Has anyone documented the steps as the ones
> in the available documentation DON'T work?
Works fine here (on a daily basis).  Not sure what to tell you with more 
information.

If you want to tell me exactly how you do it, I'll be glad to review the 
process.




cheers, jerry
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Would you mind pointing us to a howto that works?

In my case, I'd like samba to download native win98 drivers to Win98 clients



Gerald (Jerry) Carter (jerry@samba.org) wrote*:
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>On Wed, 29 Jan 2003, Robert M. Martel wrote:
>
>> So SAMBA no longer supports print driver downloads.  That is about the
>> only conclusion that I can come to at this point.  I've not been
able to
>> get Windows printer driver downloads to work right since Samba 2.2.2.
>>
>> No one but printer admins displays the correct settings for printers,
>> everyone else gets the original printer defaults that they cannot
>> change.
>
>Did you initialize the driver bound to the printer?
>
>> Does anyone *REALLY* have downloading printer drivers to Windows 2000
>> clients working properly?  Has anyone documented the steps as the ones
>> in the available documentation DON'T work?
>
>Works fine here (on a daily basis).  Not sure what to tell you with more
>information.
>
>If you want to tell me exactly how you do it, I'll be glad to review the
>process.
>
>
>
>
>cheers, jerry
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On  Sat Feb 1 11:00:04 GMT 2003, Gerald (Jerry) Carter wrote:
> On Sat, 1 Feb 2003, Dr. Hansjoerg Maurer wrote:
> 
> > Hi,
> > 
> > could it be a problem with the operating system, samba runs on?
> > 
> > On Solaris 2.8 I have the same problems, decribed above, but not on 
> > linux (both running samba 2.2.7a and cups-1.1.18).
> 
> Could be.  I don't have a Solaris box locally to run regular tests.

This morning I set up a linux box to test 2.2.7a on along with the HP printer 
drivers that have been giving me problems.

I followed the documentation for loading and "tickling" the printer
drivers.

Initial tests were successful - the printer device settings downloaded for a 
non-printer admin user.

Looks like an issue where Solaris and samba do not play nice together.  Jerry, 
if you or the development team have something you want to test against Sun 
Solaris 9 let me know.  I need to get this resolved, but I don't know where
to
start looking for clues.

-Bob Martel





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Hi Jerry,
> On Mon, 3 Feb 2003, Hansjoerg Maurer wrote:
> > we have solaris 2.8 here (I initially described the problem at our
> > site), and I can help testing to. Could there be any connections to
> > the Solaris fcntl bug, described in other E-Mails, or is this a
> > completly differnt area.
>
> This looks like a Samba on Solaris bug.  I will fix it when I get
> back into the office next week.
>
>
>
> cheers, jerry
Have you already found any time to look into this? Any efforts? I think 
there are quite a lot of people waiting for this.

Thanks,

Christopher

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