Greetings ... This is a stupid question which have been wanting to ask for awhile, and hope somebody can help me. Profiles, if I understand it correctly come in two forms, local and roaming? Now local in on the computer the user uses and roaming is one that is download from the server when the user logs in. Now, where my problem is, when I have some users who have huge documents folder, this log on and log off takes a long time, not mention the problems I have run into when their computer is turn off incorrectly. I am sure this is a Micro$oftism, but is there a way to use roaming profiles, but have then use directly off the server and not copied to and from the server at login and logout? Thanks Mailed Lee
At 16:24 15.01.2003 +0200, you wrote:>Greetings ... > > This is a stupid question which have been wanting to ask for > awhile, and hope somebody can help me.It's not stupid but it has been answerd many times ;-) Searching the archives for keywords like 'roaming' and/or 'profile' will give you mayne useful information.> Profiles, if I understand it correctly come in two forms, local > and roaming? Now local in on the computer the user uses and roaming is > one that is download from the server when the user logs in. > > Now, where my problem is, when I have some users who have huge > documents folder, this log on and log off takes a long time, not mention > the problems I have run into when their computer is turn off > incorrectly. I am sure this is a Micro$oftism, but is there a way to use > roaming profiles, but have then use directly off the server and not > copied to and from the server at login and logout?What I would maybe do first is set up a policy for those users to NOT abuse these folders for storing such huge amount of data. Give them a HOME on the server (if you want these data to be backup up etc.) or tell them to use a certain directory on their machines OUTSIDE of c:\documents....\username If I understood it correctly there several different strategies you can follow to prevent huge amounts of data being copied back and forth during logon/off. One suggestion came from Patrick Gunerud slu@firerun.net: "Just change the logon path option in your smb.conf to "logon path = ". When there is no path set this will make the windows clients store the profiles locally. " Another tip from John Terpstra: "Corollory: ---------- If you want to use roaming profiles (good idea!), then it is essential that profiles be managed. It is also important that all desktop tools and service be configured in such a way that the profile environment remains manageable. A good way to enforce this is trough the use of mandatory profiles (ie: ones that the user can not change). This prevents the growth in size of the profile. Oh yes, it also forces the site to manage the network more carefully. " And for the third one search the archive for the thread "Profiles and Win2000", there are several useful suggestions regarding your problem.>Thanks >Mailed >LeeYou are welcome ;-) Erwin
On Wed, 15 Jan 2003, C.Lee Taylor wrote:> Greetings ... > > This is a stupid question which have been wanting to ask for awhile, > and hope somebody can help me. > > Profiles, if I understand it correctly come in two forms, local and > roaming? Now local in on the computer the user uses and roaming is one > that is download from the server when the user logs in.Correct.> Now, where my problem is, when I have some users who have huge > documents folder, this log on and log off takes a long time, not mention > the problems I have run into when their computer is turn off > incorrectly. I am sure this is a Micro$oftism, but is there a way to > use roaming profiles, but have then use directly off the server and not > copied to and from the server at login and logout?This is simply a symptom of BAD BAD BAD practice. You need to educate your users that they should store documents on a drive share. Keep profiles clean and small by making them mandatory. See the Win2K/WinXP resource kits for details how to create a mandatory profile. This forces your users to use network drives instead of dropping their poop all over the shop. - John T. -- John H Terpstra Email: jht@samba.org
Unless your users are using Outlook (or virtually any E-mail client for that matter) I have a few users with .PST files that are over 1Gig in size. This is due to the regular amount of data files that we are sent. I have discussed with them the need to trim those files down. However, that isn't something that they are considering doing. My hands are pretty tied with that right now. In the near future, I am planning on replacing the current "locally" stored .PST files with an IMAP server. There are a few other things that I can do after that to cut down on the logon/logoff time. However, I have other more pressing matters to attend to. Anyway, our network speed is swift enough to get those logoffs down to about twenty minutes or so...(Crazy I know, but that's what it takes.) Logons are thankfully much faster. Regards, Robert Adkins II IT Manager/Buyer Impel Industries, Inc. Ph. 586-254-5800 Fx. 586-254-5804 -----Original Message----- From: John H Terpstra [mailto:jht@samba.org] Sent: Wednesday, January 15, 2003 8:35 PM To: samba@lists.samba.org; C.Lee Taylor; Robert Adkins Cc: samba@lists.samba.org Subject: Re: [Samba] Profiles ... On Wed, 15 Jan 2003, C.Lee Taylor wrote:> Greetings ... > > This is a stupid question which have been wanting to ask for awhile, > and hope somebody can help me. > > Profiles, if I understand it correctly come in two forms, local and > roaming? Now local in on the computer the user uses and roaming is one > that is download from the server when the user logs in.Correct.> Now, where my problem is, when I have some users who have huge > documents folder, this log on and log off takes a long time, notmention> the problems I have run into when their computer is turn off > incorrectly. I am sure this is a Micro$oftism, but is there a way to > use roaming profiles, but have then use directly off the server and not > copied to and from the server at login and logout?This is simply a symptom of BAD BAD BAD practice. You need to educate your users that they should store documents on a drive share. Keep profiles clean and small by making them mandatory. See the Win2K/WinXP resource kits for details how to create a mandatory profile. This forces your users to use network drives instead of dropping their poop all over the shop. - John T. -- John H Terpstra Email: jht@samba.org -- To unsubscribe from this list go to the following URL and read the instructions: http://lists.samba.org/mailman/listinfo/samba