Greetings Group I think the Word crashing problem is quite common and does not confine itself to Samba as PDC. Running Word with any file open on a Samba server seems to invite trouble and file trashing. This seems to more of a problem with Win2000 and XP than Win9X and NT. I suspect that Micorsoft have "improved" the code to "optimise" performance for Micorsoft servers... In my particular case we have found that "no oplocks" reduces the rate of file trashing...but am not sure if this totally fixes the problem yet. A very worrying syndrome for us Linux adminz. Advice on Microsoft word = send it back to Gates, (and you don't have to go to UniSex to know that is good advice). The more you struggle against this advice, the more work you make for yourself and the more money you give to Bill. Tell your superiors that if they must have f*#king Microsoft products on the net then perhaps they would like to f*#king fix them too. Years of long experience - Microsloth does not get any better with time..... ;0) - -Peter Barker Desktop Display Ltd.,Brighton, UK. -Technical Director "Bit bashers to the gentry" -pbarker@display.co.uk http://www.display.co.uk/
There are several parameters that affect file caching, not just oplocks. I would look at man smb.conf and read about: kernel oplocks sync always strict sync There may be other ways to tweak the system. Joel On Mon, Jan 03, 2000 at 09:39:30PM +0000, Peter Barker wrote:> Greetings Group > > I think the Word crashing problem is quite common and does not confine > itself to Samba as PDC. Running Word with any file open on a Samba server > seems to invite trouble and file trashing. > > This seems to more of a problem with Win2000 and XP than Win9X and NT. I > suspect that Micorsoft have "improved" the code to "optimise" performance > for Micorsoft servers... > > In my particular case we have found that "no oplocks" reduces the rate of > file trashing...but am not sure if this totally fixes the problem yet. A > very worrying syndrome for us Linux adminz. > > Advice on Microsoft word = send it back to Gates, (and you don't have to go > to UniSex to know that is good advice). The more you struggle against this > advice, the more work you make for yourself and the more money you give to > Bill. Tell your superiors that if they must have f*#king Microsoft products > on the net then perhaps they would like to f*#king fix them too. > > Years of long experience - Microsloth does not get any better with > time..... ;0) > > - > -Peter Barker Desktop Display Ltd.,Brighton, UK. > -Technical Director "Bit bashers to the gentry" > -pbarker@display.co.uk http://www.display.co.uk/ > > -- > To unsubscribe from this list go to the following URL and read the > instructions: http://lists.samba.org/mailman/listinfo/samba
Le Lundi 3 Janvier 2000 22:39, Peter Barker a ?crit :> Greetings Group > > I think the Word crashing problem is quite common and does not confine > itself to Samba as PDC. Running Word with any file open on a Samba server > seems to invite trouble and file trashing. > > This seems to more of a problem with Win2000 and XP than Win9X and NT. I > suspect that Micorsoft have "improved" the code to "optimise" performance > for Micorsoft servers...Maybe the behaviour of these new OS has changed from the old ones, but have to tried samba 2.0.7 instead of samba 2.2.x and did you see a change ... ? samba 2.2 has apparently generalized its way to store internal stuff in tdb database... since this change we all experienced lots of freezen lock problems etc... I tend to think we have to look more closely at his new code in samba. It might be more stressed under win2k, xp / office than in other conditions. Try to open a unix fifo file for exemple in explorer with samba 2.2.5 ... wopp instant locking.tdb lock :) debug smbd processes for your client (yes there will be several smbd for the same client after a couple minutes) with strace and guess what happened... Pascal> > In my particular case we have found that "no oplocks" reduces the rate of > file trashing...but am not sure if this totally fixes the problem yet. A > very worrying syndrome for us Linux adminz. > > Advice on Microsoft word = send it back to Gates, (and you don't have to go > to UniSex to know that is good advice). The more you struggle against this > advice, the more work you make for yourself and the more money you give to > Bill. Tell your superiors that if they must have f*#king Microsoft products > on the net then perhaps they would like to f*#king fix them too. > > Years of long experience - Microsloth does not get any better with > time..... ;0) > > - > -Peter Barker Desktop Display Ltd.,Brighton, UK. > -Technical Director "Bit bashers to the gentry" > -pbarker@display.co.uk http://www.display.co.uk/