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Chris Olsen

2007-Dec-26 00:58 UTC

How do you *nix users test for IE quirks?

I have recently switched over to a mac and am not sure how to test my
latest project on IE6/7.  I can start up parallels and test the live
site, but that will be rather painful to make updates until everything
is just right.

Not to long ago I found something, ies4osx, but it didn''t seem to work
on my machine for loading sites through localhost.

Thanks for the advice.
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Xavier Noria

2007-Dec-26 01:12 UTC

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Re: How do you *nix users test for IE quirks?

On Dec 26, 2007, at 1:58 AM, Chris Olsen wrote:
> I have recently switched over to a mac and am not sure how to test my
> latest project on IE6/7.  I can start up parallels and test the live
> site, but that will be rather painful to make updates until everything
> is just right.
>
> Not to long ago I found something, ies4osx, but it didn''t seem to
work
> on my machine for loading sites through localhost.
 From Parallels you see the IP of your mac in the local network.

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Phillip Koebbe

2007-Dec-26 02:14 UTC

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Re: How do you *nix users test for IE quirks?

On Dec 25, 2007, at 7:12 PM, Xavier Noria wrote:
>
> On Dec 26, 2007, at 1:58 AM, Chris Olsen wrote:
>
>> I have recently switched over to a mac and am not sure how to test my
>> latest project on IE6/7.  I can start up parallels and test the live
>> site, but that will be rather painful to make updates until  
>> everything
>> is just right.
>>
>> Not to long ago I found something, ies4osx, but it didn''t seem
to
>> work
>> on my machine for loading sites through localhost.
>
>  From Parallels you see the IP of your mac in the local network.
Xavier is spot on here.  You fire up Paralles and point your browser  
to the host''s (the Mac) IP address on your internal network.   
Remember to include the port number (typically 3000) that your  
mongrel or webrick is running on.  This is how I do it.  I have one  
parallels vm with IE 6, Safari 3, and FireFox, and another with IE 7,  
Safari 3, and Firefox (so I can test Safari and/or FF in either VM).  
I''m planning on adding Opera at some point.  I''m also going to
add a
VM or two for (K)Ubuntu so i can do quick tests on Konqueror and  
Galeon (or whatever the Gnome browser is called).  I know the market  
share for some of these other browser''s is pretty small, but
I''d like
to say that the sites I create work well in them.  I support IE  
because I *have* to.  I support the others because I *want* to.

Peace,
Phillip

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Chris Olsen

2007-Dec-26 02:53 UTC

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Re: How do you *nix users test for IE quirks?

I didn''t think that parallels could do that, but that will work nicely.
To test ie6 and ie7 do you guys create 2 virtual windows systems?
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Chris Olsen

2007-Dec-26 02:54 UTC

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Re: How do you *nix users test for IE quirks?

Chris Olsen wrote:> I didn''t think that parallels could do that, but that will work
nicely.
> To test ie6 and ie7 do you guys create 2 virtual windows systems?
>This is how I do it.  I have one
>parallels vm with IE 6, Safari 3, and FireFox, and another with IE 7,
>Safari 3, and Firefox
oops I didn''t read read Phillips post well enough. :)

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Conrad Taylor

2007-Dec-26 02:58 UTC

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Re: How do you *nix users test for IE quirks?

Hi, I''m using VMWare Fusion to test IE, Firefox, and Safari under
Windows
Vista.
Good luck,

-Conrad

On Dec 25, 2007 6:53 PM, Chris Olsen
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> I didn''t think that parallels could do that, but that will work
nicely.
> To test ie6 and ie7 do you guys create 2 virtual windows systems?
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chovy

2007-Dec-26 15:23 UTC

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Re: How do you *nix users test for IE quirks?

Parallels for mac, for Linux, there''s IEs4linux

On Dec 25, 4:58 pm, Chris Olsen
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wrote:> I have recently switched over to a mac and am not sure how to test my
> latest project on IE6/7.  I can start up parallels and test the live
> site, but that will be rather painful to make updates until everything
> is just right.
>
> Not to long ago I found something, ies4osx, but it didn''t seem to
work
> on my machine for loading sites through localhost.
>
> Thanks for the advice.
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Hassan Schroeder

2007-Dec-26 16:31 UTC

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Re: How do you *nix users test for IE quirks?

On Dec 25, 2007 5:58 PM, Chris Olsen
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wrote:>
> I have recently switched over to a mac and am not sure how to test my
> latest project on IE6/7.
I use VMWare Workstation on my Linux desktop and now VMWare
Fusion on my new MacBook Pro.

And with the new OS X virtual desktops ("Spaces") it''s easy
to just
park a Windows VM or two in a dedicated Space for testing.

FWIW,
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Chris Olsen

2007-Dec-29 21:07 UTC

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Re: How do you *nix users test for IE quirks?

What are the parallels settings that you guys use to access 
localhost:3000?  I finally got around to installing another virtual xp, 
but am unable to get get anything when trying to open the page.

Thanks.
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Phillip Koebbe

2007-Dec-29 21:52 UTC

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Re: How do you *nix users test for IE quirks?

On Dec 29, 2007, at 3:07 PM, Chris Olsen wrote:
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> What are the parallels settings that you guys use to access
> localhost:3000?  I finally got around to installing another virtual  
> xp,
> but am unable to get get anything when trying to open the page.
>
> Thanks.
If I''m running Mongrel on localhost:3000 (on my Mac), from a  
Parallels VM I''d access 192.168.7.246:3000.  I just checked my two  
VMs, and one is bridged and the other is shared, so that doesn''t seem  
to make a difference.

Phillip


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Chris Olsen

2007-Dec-29 22:01 UTC

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Re: How do you *nix users test for IE quirks?

Phillip Koebbe wrote:> On Dec 29, 2007, at 3:07 PM, Chris Olsen wrote:
> 
>>
>> What are the parallels settings that you guys use to access
>> localhost:3000?  I finally got around to installing another virtual  
>> xp,
>> but am unable to get get anything when trying to open the page.
>>
>> Thanks.
> 
> If I''m running Mongrel on localhost:3000 (on my Mac), from a
> Parallels VM I''d access 192.168.7.246:3000.  I just checked my two
> VMs, and one is bridged and the other is shared, so that doesn''t
seem
> to make a difference.
> 
> Phillip
I should''ve thought of that.  It works nicely now.

Thanks Phillip

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LemmingJoel

2008-Jan-07 03:42 UTC

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Re: How do you *nix users test for IE quirks?

I guess you have to pay for the license for the copy of Windows you
run in the VM. That sucks. I hate MS so much.
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Ryan Bigg

2008-Jan-07 03:59 UTC

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Re: How do you *nix users test for IE quirks?

Want a free way to test for IE quirks? Wait for people using IE to use your
site and let them complain about all the quirks. Give them a phone number
that they can contact "your support line" on, where it actually being
the
direct like to Microsoft Internet Explorer''s lead developer.

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Preston Lee

2008-Jan-07 04:08 UTC

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Re: How do you *nix users test for IE quirks?

I do this...
http://www.prestonlee.com/archives/112

..using two VMs. One for XP/IE6, the other XP/IE7.

Preston

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> I guess you have to pay for the license for the copy of Windows you
> run in the VM. That sucks. I hate MS so much.
> >

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Murray Steele

2008-Jan-07 10:57 UTC

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Re: How do you *nix users test for IE quirks?

No-one else seems to have mentioned it, but there is always Multiple IE:
http://tredosoft.com/Multiple_IE

Lets you install multiple copies of IE in one copy of Windows, given that
you *might* have to pay a license for each VM copy of windows you use this
could be more cost-effective.

Cheers,

Muz

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> I do this...
> http://www.prestonlee.com/archives/112
>
> ..using two VMs. One for XP/IE6, the other XP/IE7.
>
> Preston
>
> On Jan 6, 2008, at 8:42 PM, LemmingJoel wrote:
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> >
> > I guess you have to pay for the license for the copy of Windows you
> > run in the VM. That sucks. I hate MS so much.
> > >
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> >
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