Apologies for cross-posting. We''ve been asked to do a job for a client who wants to embrace agile development methodologies. Hurrah! However, our standard contract was written for the 1980s. It is full of phrases like "agreed specification" and "change request procedure" and so on. I was wondering, how do other people get around this in contract forms with their clients? I was thinking of just reverting to a standard consultancy contract, but not sure if that will cover all our bases. Any ideas from wiser owls here? -- Paul --~--~---------~--~----~------------~-------~--~----~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Ruby on Rails: Talk" group. To post to this group, send email to rubyonrails-talk-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFFw@public.gmane.org To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rubyonrails-talk-unsubscribe-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFFw@public.gmane.org For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rubyonrails-talk -~----------~----~----~----~------~----~------~--~---
Justin Forder
2006-Sep-20 00:35 UTC
Re: (slightly O/T) Agile dev. contract form for clients?
Paul Robinson wrote:> Apologies for cross-posting. > > We''ve been asked to do a job for a client who wants to embrace agile > development methodologies. Hurrah! > > However, our standard contract was written for the 1980s. It is full > of phrases like "agreed specification" and "change request procedure" > and so on. > > I was wondering, how do other people get around this in contract > forms with their clients? I was thinking of just reverting to a > standard consultancy contract, but not sure if that will cover all > our bases. > > Any ideas from wiser owls here?Hi Paul I know the DSDM people have written interesting stuff about how agility affects contracts and the procurement process, so I had a quick look via Google and found this: http://www.dsdm.org/products/contract.asp You have to register to download their sample contract - I haven''t done that, so I haven''t seen it - they are good people and signatories to the Agile Manifesto, so I hope it will be of use to you. regards Justin Forder --~--~---------~--~----~------------~-------~--~----~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Ruby on Rails: Talk" group. To post to this group, send email to rubyonrails-talk-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFFw@public.gmane.org To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rubyonrails-talk-unsubscribe-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFFw@public.gmane.org For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rubyonrails-talk -~----------~----~----~----~------~----~------~--~---
FYI: I just tried this link and you have to be a paying member to get access to the file. The free registration isn''t adequate. -Philip Justin Forder wrote:> Paul Robinson wrote: > > Apologies for cross-posting. > > > > We''ve been asked to do a job for a client who wants to embrace agile > > development methodologies. Hurrah! > > > > However, our standard contract was written for the 1980s. It is full > > of phrases like "agreed specification" and "change request procedure" > > and so on. > > > > I was wondering, how do other people get around this in contract > > forms with their clients? I was thinking of just reverting to a > > standard consultancy contract, but not sure if that will cover all > > our bases. > > > > Any ideas from wiser owls here? > > Hi Paul > > I know the DSDM people have written interesting stuff about how agility > affects contracts and the procurement process, so I had a quick look via > Google and found this: > > http://www.dsdm.org/products/contract.asp > > You have to register to download their sample contract - I haven''t done > that, so I haven''t seen it - they are good people and signatories to the > Agile Manifesto, so I hope it will be of use to you. > > regards > > Justin Forder--~--~---------~--~----~------------~-------~--~----~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Ruby on Rails: Talk" group. To post to this group, send email to rubyonrails-talk-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFFw@public.gmane.org To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rubyonrails-talk-unsubscribe-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFFw@public.gmane.org For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rubyonrails-talk -~----------~----~----~----~------~----~------~--~---
Justin Forder
2006-Sep-29 00:12 UTC
Re: (slightly O/T) Agile dev. contract form for clients?
Philip wrote:> FYI: I just tried this link and you have to be a paying member to get > access to the file. The free registration isn''t adequate.Oh. Sorry to lead you up that garden path! Justin> > -Philip > > Justin Forder wrote: >> Paul Robinson wrote: >>> Apologies for cross-posting. >>> >>> We''ve been asked to do a job for a client who wants to embrace agile >>> development methodologies. Hurrah! >>> >>> However, our standard contract was written for the 1980s. It is full >>> of phrases like "agreed specification" and "change request procedure" >>> and so on. >>> >>> I was wondering, how do other people get around this in contract >>> forms with their clients? I was thinking of just reverting to a >>> standard consultancy contract, but not sure if that will cover all >>> our bases. >>> >>> Any ideas from wiser owls here? >> Hi Paul >> >> I know the DSDM people have written interesting stuff about how agility >> affects contracts and the procurement process, so I had a quick look via >> Google and found this: >> >> http://www.dsdm.org/products/contract.asp >> >> You have to register to download their sample contract - I haven''t done >> that, so I haven''t seen it - they are good people and signatories to the >> Agile Manifesto, so I hope it will be of use to you. >> >> regards >> >> Justin Forder > > > > > >--~--~---------~--~----~------------~-------~--~----~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Ruby on Rails: Talk" group. To post to this group, send email to rubyonrails-talk-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFFw@public.gmane.org To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rubyonrails-talk-unsubscribe-/JYPxA39Uh5TLH3MbocFFw@public.gmane.org For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rubyonrails-talk -~----------~----~----~----~------~----~------~--~---