Rails - Aug 2006 - Any opinions on the Rails [Rough Cuts] books from Safari

Either -

Ruby on Rails: Up and Running or
Rails Cookbook

I''ve heard so many negative things about Safari pdf''s and the
whole
program I''d like to get some feedback.
I have AWDWR(2nd edition), RubyforRails(Manning), Programming Ruby(2nd
edition), so I''m not even sure I actually need another book but maybe
the approach or content is somewhat uniuqe.

TIA
Stuart

Stuart Fellowes wrote:
> Either -
> 
> Ruby on Rails: Up and Running or
> Rails Cookbook
> 
> I''ve heard so many negative things about Safari pdf''s and
the whole
> program I''d like to get some feedback.
> I have AWDWR(2nd edition), RubyforRails(Manning), Programming Ruby(2nd
> edition), so I''m not even sure I actually need another book but
maybe
> the approach or content is somewhat uniuqe.
> 
> TIA
> Stuart
I just downloaded the "Rails Cookbook"... it''s currently in
beta and
perhaps I shouldn''t make any judgements yet, but I''m not
satisfied with
it.

Beta here apparently means "10% complete and poorly written". If I had
known what was actually in it, I wouldn''t have bought it. Best to wait 
until they get around to putting some real content in it and hope that 
they rewrite some copy as well.

However, I would definitely recommend "Rails Recipes" from the
Pragmatic
Programmers.

Rein Henrichs

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Yes I have that one.. Excellent book.
Stuart

On 8/4/06, Rein Henrichs <rein.henrichs@gmail.com>
wrote:
> Stuart Fellowes wrote:
> > Either -
> >
> > Ruby on Rails: Up and Running or
> > Rails Cookbook
> >
> > I''ve heard so many negative things about Safari
pdf''s and the whole
> > program I''d like to get some feedback.
> > I have AWDWR(2nd edition), RubyforRails(Manning), Programming Ruby(2nd
> > edition), so I''m not even sure I actually need another book
but maybe
> > the approach or content is somewhat uniuqe.
> >
> > TIA
> > Stuart
>
> I just downloaded the "Rails Cookbook"... it''s currently
in beta and
> perhaps I shouldn''t make any judgements yet, but I''m not
satisfied with
> it.
>
> Beta here apparently means "10% complete and poorly written". If
I had
> known what was actually in it, I wouldn''t have bought it. Best to
wait
> until they get around to putting some real content in it and hope that
> they rewrite some copy as well.
>
> However, I would definitely recommend "Rails Recipes" from the
Pragmatic
> Programmers.
>
> Rein Henrichs
>
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> Posted via http://www.ruby-forum.com/.
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Could you post a Table of Contents of the books,
O''reilly doesn''t include it on their catalog
pages.

Thanks.

Greg

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I got Ruby on Rails: Up and Running and it is pretty bad. I got it
before I got AWDwR because I didn''t know any better at the time and
found that it was so bad I had to get AWDwR to actually learn anything
about building a rails app. There just isn''t anything worth reading in
it. It is poorly put together, poorly written, and way behind the
other books. My advice is to stick with the pragmatic programmers
books and don''t waste your time or money.

-Jake

On 8/4/06, Dark Ambient <sambient@gmail.com>
wrote:
> Either -
>
> Ruby on Rails: Up and Running or
> Rails Cookbook
>
> I''ve heard so many negative things about Safari pdf''s and
the whole
> program I''d like to get some feedback.
> I have AWDWR(2nd edition), RubyforRails(Manning), Programming Ruby(2nd
> edition), so I''m not even sure I actually need another book but
maybe
> the approach or content is somewhat uniuqe.
>
> TIA
> Stuart
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On Aug 4, 2006, at 2:19 PM, Dark Ambient wrote:
> Ruby on Rails: Up and Running
this is probably the best introduction i''ve seen*, including AWDWR  
and any of the 10 zillion articles on the subject.  that said, it is  
an introduction -- if you''re already comfortable with rails, this  
probably isn''t for you.

if i were looking for something for someone who''s interested in  
learning rails, this is the book i''d go with.  until recently, amazon  
was claiming the paper form would be available some time this month,  
but at the moment they don''t have a date.

-faisal
-disclosure: i was a reviewer on this book, but i have not seen the  
final published book.