Hi all, I''ve been offered a short-term contract here in the North of England - around 3 months work, but with RoR I think it will take considerably less time - and am just curious what market rates were right now. I''ve been offered a little under ?1k/week which seems ''right'' for a PHP coder doing this kind of work, but should I be hitting for more, or is this a fair offer? Also, how much RoR work is there out for short term contracts like this? I''m out on my own now and wondering whether I should be pushing for this kind of work a lot more. Thanks, -- Paul Robinson -- Posted via http://www.ruby-forum.com/.
On Wed, 2006-01-11 at 01:00 +0100, Paul Robinson wrote:> Hi all, > > I''ve been offered a short-term contract here in the North of England - > around 3 months work, but with RoR I think it will take considerably > less time - and am just curious what market rates were right now. > > I''ve been offered a little under ?1k/week which seems ''right'' for a PHP > coder doing this kind of work, but should I be hitting for more, or is > this a fair offer? >You should be charging what you feel is right.> Also, how much RoR work is there out for short term contracts like this?I don''t think that there is any real good way to measure this. I know that we''re booked pretty heavily at PLANET ARGON... and I''ve heard the same from some freelancers.> I''m out on my own now and wondering whether I should be pushing for this > kind of work a lot more.We''re hiring in Portland, Oregon... might be a little too far of a commute. ;-) http://www.planetargon.com/jobs.html Cheers, -Robby -- /************************************************************** * Robby Russell, Founder & Executive Director * * PLANET ARGON, LLC | www.planetargon.com * * Ruby on Rails Development, Consulting, and Hosting * * Portland, Oregon | p: 503.351.4730 | f: 815.642.4068 * * blog: www.robbyonrails.com | book: www.programmingrails.com * ***************************************************************/
If you''re confident, propose a ''fixed-bid'' deliverable at a price they would expect, then deliver it significantly sooner -- big profit to you! I wrote about it at http://jroller.com/page/obie?entry=productivity_arbitrage On 1/10/06, Robby Russell <robby.lists@planetargon.com> wrote:> On Wed, 2006-01-11 at 01:00 +0100, Paul Robinson wrote: > > Hi all, > > > > I''ve been offered a short-term contract here in the North of England - > > around 3 months work, but with RoR I think it will take considerably > > less time - and am just curious what market rates were right now.
Obie Fernandez wrote:> If you''re confident, propose a ''fixed-bid'' deliverable at a price they > would expect, then deliver it significantly sooner -- big profit to > you! > > I wrote about it at > http://jroller.com/page/obie?entry=productivity_arbitrageWith fixed bids ya gotta have iron-clad scope. Otherwise you might have to eat the delta cost if the client decides to stick you with expanded scope not accounted for in the contract.. hehe (this is not from a rails client BTW, just ERP consulting experience in general talking here :) -Amr -- Posted via http://www.ruby-forum.com/.
On 1/10/06, Robby Russell <robby.lists@planetargon.com> wrote:> > We''re hiring in Portland, Oregon... might be a little too far of a > commute. ;-) > > http://www.planetargon.com/jobs.html >Just curious - your job posting says: "We know you know Ruby, but ideal candidates should also honor best practices such as refactoring, TDD and version control." What IDE do you use with RoR that supports refactoring? I have come from the land of Java and was heavy into refactoring with IntelliJ IDEA. After spending a few months with Rails and Textmate, I started to think I''d just have to live without refactoring support. And of course, with dynamically typed languages like Ruby, you''ve got far fewer refactorings available to you (or at least their a lot harder to implement). So, what IDE and what kinds of refactoring do you use with Ruby? -- Lance Ball http://skimcoat.blogspot.com http://langwell-ball.com/indexed-search
On Tue, 2006-01-10 at 22:17 -0500, Lance Ball wrote:> On 1/10/06, Robby Russell <robby.lists@planetargon.com> wrote: > > > > We''re hiring in Portland, Oregon... might be a little too far of a > > commute. ;-) > > > > http://www.planetargon.com/jobs.html > > > > Just curious - your job posting says: > > "We know you know Ruby, but ideal candidates should also honor best > practices such as refactoring, TDD and version control." > > What IDE do you use with RoR that supports refactoring?We don''t view Refactoring as something you point and click your way to. ;-) At this level.. we suggest rdoc, a fun editor, and grep when necessary. :-) -Robby -- /************************************************************** * Robby Russell, Founder & Executive Director * * PLANET ARGON, LLC | www.planetargon.com * * Ruby on Rails Development, Consulting, and Hosting * * Portland, Oregon | p: 503.351.4730 | f: 815.642.4068 * * blog: www.robbyonrails.com | book: www.programmingrails.com * ***************************************************************/
On Tuesday 10 January 2006 08:43 pm, Amr Malik wrote:> Obie Fernandez wrote: > > If you''re confident, propose a ''fixed-bid'' deliverable at a price they > > would expect, then deliver it significantly sooner -- big profit to > > you! > > > > I wrote about it at > > http://jroller.com/page/obie?entry=productivity_arbitrage > > With fixed bids ya gotta have iron-clad scope. Otherwise you might have > to eat the delta cost if the client decides to stick you with expanded > scope not accounted for in the contract.. hehe (this is not from a rails > client BTW, just ERP consulting experience in general talking here :) > > -AmrYeah, I''ve had some buddies who really got the shaft fixed bidding. No matter what they say, they''ll want more, and on your dime. The other thing, estimating the darned things right takes a huge amount of time you don''t get paid for. I''ve found that if you work for a reasonable rate, and then turn it in much quicker, you get hired for more stuff, and soon you raise your rates. SteveT Steve Litt Author: * Universal Troubleshooting Process courseware * Troubleshooting Techniques of the Successful Technologist * Rapid Learning: Secret Weapon of the Successful Technologist Webmaster * Troubleshooters.Com * http://www.troubleshooters.com (Legal Disclaimer) Follow these suggestions at your own risk.