Dear All I would need to perform a MANOVA with both fixed (group, sex, group*sex) and random (brood) effects. I wonder if this is at all possible and if R does that. At the moment, I only know that I can run a classic MANOVA with R. Thank you David ______________________________________________ David Costantini, PhD http://www.davidcostantini.it NERC Postdoctoral research associate Institute of Biodiversity, Animal Health and Comparative Medicine School of Life Sciences College of Medical, Veterinary and Life Sciences University of Glasgow Graham Kerr Building, room 511 Glasgow G12 8QQ, UK See also my association Ornis italica http://www.ornisitalica.com http://www.birdcam.it ____________________________________________________ [[alternative HTML version deleted]]
I suppose you mean this: http://www.r-project.org/doc/Rnews/Rnews_2007-2.pdf Another approach, less general but in my opinion easier to use (and equivalent in many situations), is provided by Anova() in package car. See: http://socserv.mcmaster.ca/jfox/Books/Companion/appendix/Appendix-Multivariate-Linear-Models.pdf The package ez also has ezANOVA(), a wrapper to Anova() that may simplify the task for full factorial designs. Helios De Rosario>>> El d?a 17/05/2012 a las 12:05, "David Costantini"<David.Costantini at glasgow.ac.uk> escribi?:> Dear All > I would need to perform a MANOVA with both fixed (group, sex,group*sex) and> random (brood) effects. I wonder if this is at all possible and if Rdoes> that. > At the moment, I only know that I can run a classic MANOVA with R. > > Thank you > David > > ______________________________________________ > > David Costantini, PhD > > http://www.davidcostantini.it > NERC Postdoctoral research associate > > Institute of Biodiversity, Animal Health and Comparative Medicine > School of Life Sciences > College of Medical, Veterinary and Life Sciences > University of Glasgow > Graham Kerr Building, room 511 > Glasgow G12 8QQ, UK > > See also my association Ornis italica > http://www.ornisitalica.com > http://www.birdcam.it > ____________________________________________________ > > > > > [[alternative HTML version deleted]]INSTITUTO DE BIOMEC?NICA DE VALENCIA Universidad Polit?cnica de Valencia ? Edificio 9C Camino de Vera s/n ? 46022 VALENCIA (ESPA?A) Tel. +34 96 387 91 60 ? Fax +34 96 387 91 69 www.ibv.org Antes de imprimir este e-mail piense bien si es necesario hacerlo. En cumplimiento de la Ley Org?nica 15/1999 reguladora de la Protecci?n de Datos de Car?cter Personal, le informamos de que el presente mensaje contiene informaci?n confidencial, siendo para uso exclusivo del destinatario arriba indicado. En caso de no ser usted el destinatario del mismo le informamos que su recepci?n no le autoriza a su divulgaci?n o reproducci?n por cualquier medio, debiendo destruirlo de inmediato, rog?ndole lo notifique al remitente.
Hi, after re-reading I think that I misunderstood your question. You don't provide many details, but I suppose that the "brood" effect is nested within the fixed effects, so you don't mean a multivariate approach for a split-plot or a repeated-measures design, but the analysis of a multivariate mixed effects model. Do you? In that case, perhaps the package MCMCglmm may help, although I have never used it, so I can't tell anything for sure. Helios>>> El d?a 17/05/2012 a las 12:05, "David Costantini"<David.Costantini at glasgow.ac.uk> escribi?:> Dear All > I would need to perform a MANOVA with both fixed (group, sex,group*sex) and> random (brood) effects. I wonder if this is at all possible and if Rdoes> that. > At the moment, I only know that I can run a classic MANOVA with R. > > Thank you > David > > ______________________________________________ > > David Costantini, PhD > > http://www.davidcostantini.it > NERC Postdoctoral research associate > > Institute of Biodiversity, Animal Health and Comparative Medicine > School of Life Sciences > College of Medical, Veterinary and Life Sciences > University of Glasgow > Graham Kerr Building, room 511 > Glasgow G12 8QQ, UK > > See also my association Ornis italica > http://www.ornisitalica.com > http://www.birdcam.it > ____________________________________________________ > > > > > [[alternative HTML version deleted]]INSTITUTO DE BIOMEC?NICA DE VALENCIA Universidad Polit?cnica de Valencia ? Edificio 9C Camino de Vera s/n ? 46022 VALENCIA (ESPA?A) Tel. +34 96 387 91 60 ? Fax +34 96 387 91 69 www.ibv.org Antes de imprimir este e-mail piense bien si es necesario hacerlo. En cumplimiento de la Ley Org?nica 15/1999 reguladora de la Protecci?n de Datos de Car?cter Personal, le informamos de que el presente mensaje contiene informaci?n confidencial, siendo para uso exclusivo del destinatario arriba indicado. En caso de no ser usted el destinatario del mismo le informamos que su recepci?n no le autoriza a su divulgaci?n o reproducci?n por cualquier medio, debiendo destruirlo de inmediato, rog?ndole lo notifique al remitente.