R help - May 2003 - [R-gui] Re: Feedback about SciViews?

> From: Don MacQueen [mailto:macq at llnl.gov]
> 
> At 5:29 PM +0100 4/30/03, Luke Whitaker wrote:
> >
> >At the risk of starting a religous war, isn't java the obvious
choice
> >for a platform independent GUI ? I know java suffered a lot from
> >early over hypeing when it wasn't really ready, but in the last
year
> >or two I've seen some very impressive platform independent
GUI's
> >built with java.
> 
> Not unless it's a whole lot better than Insightful's initial 
> effort on Solaris.
> 
> The GUI itself (i.e., how it operated, what menus were where, etc.) 
> was fine, but it was completely useless for anyone sitting at a 
> remote host, due to dreadful image quality and poor performance when 
> displaying anywhere other than on the console of the machine on which 
> SPlus was actually running.
> 
> (maybe it was ok displayed on a remote host of the same architecture; 
> I don't remember; but neither I nor any of the potential additional 
> users was)
AFAIK the problem is the X server: it gives you a black window if the X
display is 16-bit.  If you can live with 8-bit display, the Java GUI will
work.  It's that way on all Unix (X?) platform.

Andy
 
> -Don
> 
> >just my tuppence worth...
> >
> >Luke
> >
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"Liaw, Andy" <andy_liaw at merck.com> writes:

>> The GUI itself (i.e., how it operated, what menus were where, etc.) 
>> was fine, but it was completely useless for anyone sitting at a 
>> remote host, due to dreadful image quality and poor performance when 
>> displaying anywhere other than on the console of the machine on which 
>> SPlus was actually running.
>
> AFAIK the problem is the X server: it gives you a black window if the X
> display is 16-bit.  If you can live with 8-bit display, the Java GUI will
> work.  It's that way on all Unix (X?) platform.
I thought Java on Linux would do 8 and 24, but not 16?  (or something
truly weird like that).

But that doesn't address performance issues, which still can be pretty
bad.

best,
-tony

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