Mike Lonergan
2002-Jun-06 15:06 UTC
[R] generating overdispersed poisson & negative binomial data
I would like to try a simple parametric bootstrap, but unfortunately (stupidly?) my models are "overdispersed" gams & glms. I'm hoping for a function that generates overdispersed poisson or negative binomial data with a given mean, scale (& shape parameter). The loose definition I'm using is overdispersed poisson produces integer values with variance=const*mean & "looks like" a poisson, & simly for overdispersed negative binomial - I am aware that odnb is a strange thing to desire. Maybe the "integer-valued" bit of my definition is unnecessary, which would mean a simple scaling would suffice, but I don't know enough to decide on this without testing. Thanks, Mike. -.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.- r-help mailing list -- Read http://www.ci.tuwien.ac.at/~hornik/R/R-FAQ.html Send "info", "help", or "[un]subscribe" (in the "body", not the subject !) To: r-help-request at stat.math.ethz.ch _._._._._._._._._._._._._._._._._._._._._._._._._._._._._._._._._._._._._._._._
Ben Bolker
2002-Jun-10 01:46 UTC
[R] generating overdispersed poisson & negative binomial data
I think part of the reason that people use quasi-likelihoods in the first place is that they can't think of simple models that give them the desired scaling ... if you find definitions, e.g. of compounded or generalized distributions that give var=c*mean, I'd be interested. In the meantime can you do something with compounding distributions? (Unfortunately the only thing that springs to mind is e.g. Poisson with gamma-distributed rate, which gives negative-binomial in any case, not constant var*mean; Poisson+log-normal rate would be slightly more flexible but? if my moment-generating-functions algebra was less rusty I might play around with it ...) I also might look in Johnson & Kotz, which I don't have with me. On Thu, 6 Jun 2002, Mike Lonergan wrote:> I would like to try a simple parametric bootstrap, but unfortunately > (stupidly?) my models are "overdispersed" gams & glms. > > I'm hoping for a function that generates overdispersed poisson or negative > binomial data with a given mean, scale (& shape parameter). > > The loose definition I'm using is overdispersed poisson produces integer > values with variance=const*mean & "looks like" a poisson, & simly for > overdispersed negative binomial - I am aware that odnb is a strange thing to > desire. > > Maybe the "integer-valued" bit of my definition is unnecessary, which would > mean a simple scaling would suffice, but I don't know enough to decide on > this without testing. > > Thanks, > > Mike. > > > -.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.- > r-help mailing list -- Read http://www.ci.tuwien.ac.at/~hornik/R/R-FAQ.html > Send "info", "help", or "[un]subscribe" > (in the "body", not the subject !) To: r-help-request at stat.math.ethz.ch > _._._._._._._._._._._._._._._._._._._._._._._._._._._._._._._._._._._._._._._._ >-- 318 Carr Hall bolker at zoo.ufl.edu Zoology Department, University of Florida http://www.zoo.ufl.edu/bolker Box 118525 (ph) 352-392-5697 Gainesville, FL 32611-8525 (fax) 352-392-3704 -.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.- r-help mailing list -- Read http://www.ci.tuwien.ac.at/~hornik/R/R-FAQ.html Send "info", "help", or "[un]subscribe" (in the "body", not the subject !) To: r-help-request at stat.math.ethz.ch _._._._._._._._._._._._._._._._._._._._._._._._._._._._._._._._._._._._._._._._