On Tue, 2013-07-16 at 23:09 -0400, Charles Lepple wrote:> On Jul 16, 2013, at 11:30 AM, Matt Ivie wrote: > > > I'm sure this has been asked before and I did search the list archives > > but anything I did find looked to be older. > > > > I'm looking at buying some UPS and I'm not sure how to tell which > > currently sold models are supported by NUT. I know that not every new > > model will be supported but there has to be some right? > > Generally, we find this out when someone posts to the list asking for help with a new UPS. > > > Is there a specific designation I can look for in the technical specs > > that should help me determine this? > > Here are some general thoughts on why this is a difficult question to answer: > > http://article.gmane.org/gmane.comp.monitoring.nut.user/7987 > > > Are there some manufacturers that > > are friendly to the project and make devices that work well with NUT? > > This is a little easier to answer. For the Eaton and Powerware brands, we can often ask the company to help out with technical information. Several other companies have provided tech support or protocol information. Some of this is visible if you choose either "****" or "*****" from the "Support Level" dropdown on this page: > > http://www.networkupstools.org/stable-hcl.html > > (Sorry, the 4-star rating is strictly 4-star, and does not include 5-star by default. JavaScript help is welcome here.) > > On the other hand, I personally can't recommend new APC equipment now that they have started using a proprietary protocol that several customers have been unable to obtain documentation for. I have an old APC USB HID UPS, and it works well, but their new equipment is apparently more limited in what it can monitor. > > > Any help on this would be great because the worst thing would be to buy > > a nice new UPS for a server and then find out that it is not supported > > by NUT. > > > Short answer: buy from a distributor that allows open-box returns. The NUT project can't be liable for recommendations based on old information. > > If you can provide a little more information about the kind of UPS that you are looking for, I'm sure we could narrow things down a little. Are you protecting desktops or small servers? A whole machine room? >I'm really just looking for a UPS that might run a couple of small servers and other small devices(routers or switches). If I could get 15-30 minutes of runtime from the batts and o course run the automated shutdown and reboot sequence through nut that would be great. The server I'm looking at has a PSU capable of 200W but I don't expect to be maxing out the system capabilities at all. I'll be running either Debian Wheezy(most likely) or Trisquel 6.0 and I'd like to just use the pre-packaged version of NUT rather than building a new package if I can. I don't know if that's enough information to point me in the right direction or not. Thanks
On Jul 17, 2013, at 11:27 AM, Matt Ivie wrote:> I'm really just looking for a UPS that might run a couple of small > servers and other small devices(routers or switches).Good call on including the network gear in the power budget. NUT isn't much use to the slave systems if the network connection between master and slave goes down.> If I could get > 15-30 minutes of runtime from the batts and o course run the automated > shutdown and reboot sequence through nut that would be great. The server > I'm looking at has a PSU capable of 200W but I don't expect to be maxing > out the system capabilities at all. I'll be running either Debian > Wheezy(most likely) or Trisquel 6.0 and I'd like to just use the > pre-packaged version of NUT rather than building a new package if I can.It doesn't look like I can just copy-and-paste the link to the exact result, but if you go to the UPS selector on the Eaton Power Quality page, they will recommend a few models: http://powerquality.eaton.com/ The NUT HCL spells out Powerware 9130/9140, but the Eaton pages refer to PW9130 and PW9140. Pretty sure they are the same unit with a different name. Debian wheezy has NUT 2.6.4, which should cover most of the units that Eaton's selector would recommend. You could also go with a Tripplite rack-mount UPS, but a lot of the low-end ones use a proprietary protocol that seems to change between model years. -- Charles Lepple clepple at gmail
On Wed, 2013-07-17 at 23:33 -0400, Charles Lepple wrote:> On Jul 17, 2013, at 11:27 AM, Matt Ivie wrote: > > > I'm really just looking for a UPS that might run a couple of small > > servers and other small devices(routers or switches). > > Good call on including the network gear in the power budget. NUT isn't much use to the slave systems if the network connection between master and slave goes down. > > > If I could get > > 15-30 minutes of runtime from the batts and o course run the automated > > shutdown and reboot sequence through nut that would be great. The server > > I'm looking at has a PSU capable of 200W but I don't expect to be maxing > > out the system capabilities at all. I'll be running either Debian > > Wheezy(most likely) or Trisquel 6.0 and I'd like to just use the > > pre-packaged version of NUT rather than building a new package if I can. > > It doesn't look like I can just copy-and-paste the link to the exact result, but if you go to the UPS selector on the Eaton Power Quality page, they will recommend a few models: > > http://powerquality.eaton.com/ > > The NUT HCL spells out Powerware 9130/9140, but the Eaton pages refer to PW9130 and PW9140. Pretty sure they are the same unit with a different name. > > Debian wheezy has NUT 2.6.4, which should cover most of the units that Eaton's selector would recommend. > > You could also go with a Tripplite rack-mount UPS, but a lot of the low-end ones use a proprietary protocol that seems to change between model years. >What about the Eaton 5S series? Does it go under a different name on the compatibility list or is it just not compatible? -- ________________________________________________________________________ Matt Ivie BT Inc Information Technology