libvirt users - Feb 2011 - [libvirt] configuring network interface

Hello Laine:
I've revised the configuration and followed all your instructions.
I'll try to give you a better explain of my problem.

a) I need a bridged (3) configuration, because I have to connect the guests
from each others. (via ssh and execute mpi). I've three hosts, each of one
has at least a guest.
I'll only explain about the configuration of one of them, because the
problem is only related a one configuration.
hostname=rionegro  ip=192.168.1.4
guest-name=rnompi1

b) I've configured host bridge following step by step ther instruction on
http://wiki.libvirt.org/page/Networking
this is the /etc/network/config

# The loopback network interface
auto lo
iface lo inet loopback


auto br0
iface br0 inet static
address 192.168.1.4
netmask 255.255.255.0
network 192.168.1.0
broadcast 192.168.1.255
gateway 192.168.1.10
bridge_ports eth0
bridge_stp on
bridge_fd 0
bridge_maxwait 0

c) this is the xml guest configuration related to the network.

    <interface type='bridge'>
      <source bridge='br0'/>
    </interface>


d) But the guest doesn't get any IP automatically, and create an interface
with a variable name (eth4, eth5,etch6..)*. I don't know how to achieve the
guest don't behave like this and create always its network interface *with a
fixed name, for example, eth0).

Why I ask that?

if the guest created an interface with a fixed name, I would configure and
static ip for the it.
I'm attaching a printscreen "rnompi1.jpg"  that show what ifconfig
ahow on
the guest (eth14 and without any IP). It doesn't get their host either.

The only way I achieve to solve but "temporally" until reboot is
configuring
the guest statically using the name of the interface that has just up.In
that case every works fine, and the guest can connect to all the other
guests on the lan and others can connect to it.
But this only works until reboot or reconfigure the guest, because each time
the name of interface change, and my configuration I had done of
/etc/network/interface didn't work any more because is related to another
interface.

I hope I've explained better the problem I have.

Thank you very much, you've already helped too much to better understand the
different cases of network configuration

Regards.




2011/2/10 Marcela Castro Le?n <mcastrol at gmail.com>
> Hello Laine:
> Thank you very much.
> I've showed only one of the guest, each one have it's own ip
address.
> Anyway, I'll follow your advise of revise all the configuration after
> reading the doc.
> Thank you very much again.
> Regards.
>
> 2011/2/8 Laine Stump <laine at laine.org>
>
>  (For future questions such as this, you may find you get a better response
>> (and lower signal-noise ratio) by asking on the recently -created
>> libvirt-users at redhat.com list, as libvir-list has a very large
volume of
>> patches and discussion about the internals of libvirt)
>>
>>
>> On 02/08/2011 12:05 PM, Marcela Castro Le?n wrote:
>>
>> Hello
>>
>>>
>>>  I've a lan of virtual machine configured with bridge. I've
a private
>> lan of 4 machine, but one of them have 2 lan-card with access to
internet.
>>
>> Evertything works almost fine, except that I've configured on each
guest
>> the static configuration of the bridge with the ip address, like this:
>>
>> auto lo
>> iface lo inet loopback
>>
>> auto eth6
>> iface eth6 inet static
>> address 192.168.1.41
>> network 192.168.1.0
>> netmask 255.255.255.0
>> gateway 192.168.1.10
>>
>>
>>
>> So are you saying that you're attempting to give each guest the
*same* IP
>> address? There's no way that can possibly work, even if each is
connected to
>> a separate virtual network or bridge. Since the host's IP stack can
"see"
>> all of the guests' network traffic, regardless of the connection
mode you
>> choose, each must have a unique IP address even if they can't see
each
>> other.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> But each time I, for example, define the guest, it start with a
ascending
>> number of interface: eth6,eth7, eth8, etc, Now is initializing with
eth12.
>>
>>
>> There must be a mixup in the explanation - I'm understanding that
you put
>> the same config file in each guest, but each guest, when it starts,
shows a
>> different ethernet interface in its ifconfig. That doesn't seem
right,
>> because none of the guests know about each other. Or are you saying
>> something different? Where are you seeing the "eth6",
"eth7", ... "eth12"?
>> In the guest XML config maybe?
>>
>>
>> So, it doesn't get the manual configuration I've done on the
>> /etc/network/interfaces.
>> How can avoid this way of work of the number of ethernet interface the
>> guest start?
>>
>>
>> Why are you doing a manual/static definition on the guest at all?
It's
>> simpler to just leave the guest to automatically configure its eth0,
and if
>> you really want a particular IP address for a particular guest, handle
that
>> with a <host> element in the <dhcp> section of the virtual
network the guest
>> is connected to (or, if you're using a pure bridging setup, then in
the
>> static hosts config of the dhcp server on that network).
>>
>>
>>
>> A way i'm trying to solve is configuring the interface trough the
guest
>> xml definition,
>>
>>
>> The guest xml interface configuration cannot be used to setup the IP
>> address, route, etc config of the guest. It is only used for two
things:
>>
>> 1) configuring what kind of hardware appears on the guest (but not what
>> name the guest gives to it!)
>>
>> 2) configuring how that hardware is connected to the physical network
>> (usually either via an existing bridge interface on the host (in order
for
>> the guest to appear as if its directly connected to the physical
network),
>> or via a "virtual network" created by libvirt (which is
really just a bridge
>> that's not directly connected to any physical interface, relying
instead on
>> the host's IP stack to route packets from the guest out to the
physical
>> network.)
>>
>>
>>  but the operation "define" on virsh accepted without error
the xml i've
>> done, but the dumpxml doesn't show them, so, it doesn't work at
all.
>> I've followed the instruction that said the manual
"Application
>> development guide - a guide to application development with
libvirt" on page
>> 71.
>>
>>
>>
>> That document is targeted towards software developers writing
applications
>> to manage virtual guests using the libvirt API, not for system
>> administrators who are configuring virtual guests manually (or, more
likely,
>> by using software that uses the libvirt API, eg virsh or virt-manager).
It
>> likely contains more detail and less overview than what you need, which
is
>> probably what led to the confusion. I've included a pointer to a
wiki page
>> below that is more the appropriate level of information (Justin, if the
docs
>> you were working on are somewhere easily accessible, you can point to
those
>> instead.)
>>
>>
>>
>> The whole definition of the VM is attached, but the related to
interface
>> is:
>>     <interface type='bridge'>
>>       <source bridge='br0'/>
>>       <target dev='vnet0'/>
>>     <protocol>
>>         <ip address="192.168.1.41"
prefix="24"/>
>>         <route gateway="192.168.1.10"/>
>>     </protocol>
>>     <bridge stp="off" delay="0.01">
>>     <interface type="ethernet" name="eth12">
>>     <protocol>
>>         <ip address="192.168.1.41"
prefix="24"/>
>>         <route gateway="192.168.1.10"/>
>>     </protocol>
>>     </interface>
>>     </bridge>
>>     </interface>
>>
>>
>>
>> You are confusing the guest interface config (that is part of the
guest's
>> XML config, and described above), and host physical interface config
(that
>> is not in any way associated with guest config, but instead used to
>> configure the host's physical network interfaces, bridges, bonds,
and vlan
>> interfaces; and nearly as important, is not supported on Ubuntu
anyway).
>>
>> Actual guest interface config is *much* simpler than that.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> But after define, the dumpxml only show this part:
>>     <interface type='bridge'>
>>       <mac address='52:54:00:3c:92:9a'/>
>>       <source bridge='br0'/>
>>     </interface>
>>
>>
>>
>> That's because everything else you've put in your guest config
is not
>> actually a part of a valid guest interface config, and so is ignored.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> I would appreciate any help to solve the question. The problem I've
is I
>> lost the access to the guest every time the libvirt change the name of
the
>> interface eth1,2,3, etc.
>>
>>
>> In this case I think it may be useful to start over. You've somehow
been
>> tricked into misunderstanding the way that network configuration in
libvirt
>> works, confusing host interface config with guest interface config, and
the
>> resulting config bears little resemblance to what would actually work.
>>
>> =>> The first step is to read this page:
>>
>>    http://wiki.libvirt.org/page/Networking
>>
>> to get a basic overview.
>>
>> =>> Second step: you should decide which of the three methods of
connecting to
>> guests to the physical network you want to use:
>>
>> 1) NATed
>> 2) routed
>> 3) bridged
>>
>> The simplest is (1), and that will probably work just fine as long as
1)
>> you don't need incoming connections to the guests, and 2)
you're not
>> concerned about getting the last fraction of an ounce of performance
out of
>> the network.
>>
>> Depending on which of those 3 you decide to use:
>>
>> =>> Third step: follow the instructions to either create a bridge
interface on
>> the host connected to a physical network interface (for (3)), or to
create a
>> libvirt virtual network using one of the two modes ((1) or (2) -
actually
>> the stock libvirt config already has a "default" network that
is probably
>> adequate for (1), and unless you understand IP routing very well,
you'll
>> likely want to avoid (2)).
>>
>> Once the physical network is setup:
>>
>> =>> Fourth step: define your guests. In each guest, you'll
have an <interface>
>> element, but it will be much simpler than what you've previously
tried. For
>> bridged mode, the interface section would look like this:
>>
>>
>>   <interface type='bridge'>
>>     <source bridge='br0'/>
>>   </interface>
>>
>> Depending on the guest, you may want to specify what type of hardware
is
>> presented to the guest (default is rtl, which almost always works, but
is
>> not the best perfrorming), in particular, if the guest supports
virtio-net,
>> you'll want to add this into the <interface> element:
>>
>>   <model type='virtio'/>
>>
>> For NATed or routed mode, the guest's interface definition would
look like
>> this:
>>
>>   <interface type='network'>
>>      <source network='default'/>
>>   </interface>
>>
>> (replace "default" with the name of the network you've
defined, if you've
>> defined your own). In this case also, you can add a <model
type='...'/> if
>> appropriate.
>>
>> Note that I don't put anything in the <interface> element
about MAC
>> address, target device, or bus address. Those are all setup
automatically by
>> libvirt the first time you start the guest, and it will make sure that
the
>> guests don't interfere with each other.
>>
>> =>> Fifth step: only if you need a particular guest to have a
particular fixed
>> IP address, either 1) edit the network config file on the guest, 2) add
a
>> static host to the libvirt virtual network definition (giving the MAC
>> address provided to the guest by libvirt during the initial guest
startup)
>> with a <host> element added to the <dhcp> element of the
network; details
>> are here:
>>
>>     http://www.libvirt.org/formatnetwork.html
>>
>> or 3) if you're using the bridged method to connect to the physical
>> network, again either configure the guest's own config file, or add
a static
>> host definition to the dhcp server running on your physical network.
>>
>> If you still have problems don't hesitate to send another mail
(although,
>> as I said at the top, sending to libvirt-users at redhat.com may yield
>> better results than libvir-list at redhat.com).
>>
>
>
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Your problem is related to udev : every reboot of VM, udev in VM
checks the MAC address of the ethernet interface of the system to
associate it with a static name (eth0, eth1...).
If you change the MAC address of the Ethernet interface of your VM, it
will detect a new interface and associate it with a new name (ethx+1).
In order to avoid it :
try not to change the MAC address of your VM ethernet device (you can
fix it with libvirt xml),
or deactivate this mecanism in the VM : search in
/etc/udev/rules.d/70-persistent-net.rules : it calls
/lib/udev/write_net_rules at every reboot, you could chmod -x this
script in order to avoid it.

Tanguy

2011/2/10 Marcela Castro Le?n <mcastrol at
gmail.com>:
> Hello Laine:
> I've revised the configuration and followed all your instructions.
> I'll try to give you a better explain of my problem.
>
> a) I need a bridged (3) configuration, because I have to connect the guests
> from each others. (via ssh and execute mpi). I've three hosts, each of
one
> has at least a guest.
> I'll only explain about the configuration of one of them, because the
> problem is only related a one configuration.
> hostname=rionegro? ip=192.168.1.4
> guest-name=rnompi1
>
> b) I've configured host bridge following step by step ther instruction
on
> http://wiki.libvirt.org/page/Networking
> this is the /etc/network/config
>
> # The loopback network interface
> auto lo
> iface lo inet loopback
>
>
> auto br0
> iface br0 inet static
> address 192.168.1.4
> netmask 255.255.255.0
> network 192.168.1.0
> broadcast 192.168.1.255
> gateway 192.168.1.10
> bridge_ports eth0
> bridge_stp on
> bridge_fd 0
> bridge_maxwait 0
>
> c) this is the xml guest configuration related to the network.
>
> ??? <interface type='bridge'>
> ????? <source bridge='br0'/>
> ??? </interface>
>
>
> d) But the guest doesn't get any IP automatically, and create an
interface
> with a variable name (eth4, eth5,etch6..). I don't know how to achieve
the
> guest don't behave like this and create always its network interface
with a
> fixed name, for example, eth0).
>
> Why I ask that?
>
> if the guest created an interface with a fixed name, I would configure and
> static ip for the it.
> I'm attaching a printscreen "rnompi1.jpg"? that show what
ifconfig ahow on
> the guest (eth14 and without any IP). It doesn't get their host either.
>
> The only way I achieve to solve but "temporally" until reboot is
configuring
> the guest statically using the name of the interface that has just up.In
> that case every works fine, and the guest can connect to all the other
> guests on the lan and others can connect to it.
> But this only works until reboot or reconfigure the guest, because each
time
> the name of interface change, and my configuration I had done of
> /etc/network/interface didn't work any more because is related to
another
> interface.
>
> I hope I've explained better the problem I have.
>
> Thank you very much, you've already helped too much to better
understand the
> different cases of network configuration
>
> Regards.
>
>
>
>
> 2011/2/10 Marcela Castro Le?n <mcastrol at gmail.com>
>>
>> Hello Laine:
>> Thank you very much.
>> I've showed only one of the guest, each one have it's own ip
address.
>> Anyway, I'll follow your advise of revise all the configuration
after
>> reading the doc.
>> Thank you very much again.
>> Regards.
>>
>> 2011/2/8 Laine Stump <laine at laine.org>
>>>
>>> (For future questions such as this, you may find you get a better
>>> response (and lower signal-noise ratio) by asking on the recently
-created
>>> libvirt-users at redhat.com list, as libvir-list has a very large
volume of
>>> patches and discussion about the internals of libvirt)
>>>
>>> On 02/08/2011 12:05 PM, Marcela Castro Le?n wrote:
>>>
>>> Hello
>>>>
>>> I've a lan of virtual machine configured with bridge. I've
a private lan
>>> of 4 machine, but one of them have 2 lan-card with access to
internet.
>>>
>>> Evertything works almost fine, except that I've configured on
each guest
>>> the static configuration of the bridge with the ip address, like
this:
>>>
>>> auto lo
>>> iface lo inet loopback
>>>
>>> auto eth6
>>> iface eth6 inet static
>>> address 192.168.1.41
>>> network 192.168.1.0
>>> netmask 255.255.255.0
>>> gateway 192.168.1.10
>>>
>>>
>>> So are you saying that you're attempting to give each guest the
*same* IP
>>> address? There's no way that can possibly work, even if each is
connected to
>>> a separate virtual network or bridge. Since the host's IP stack
can "see"
>>> all of the guests' network traffic, regardless of the
connection mode you
>>> choose, each must have a unique IP address even if they can't
see each
>>> other.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> But each time I, for example, define the guest, it start with a
ascending
>>> number of interface: eth6,eth7, eth8, etc, Now is initializing with
eth12.
>>>
>>> There must be a mixup in the explanation - I'm understanding
that you put
>>> the same config file in each guest, but each guest, when it starts,
shows a
>>> different ethernet interface in its ifconfig. That doesn't seem
right,
>>> because none of the guests know about each other. Or are you saying
>>> something different? Where are you seeing the "eth6",
"eth7", ... "eth12"?
>>> In the guest XML config maybe?
>>>
>>> So, it doesn't get the manual configuration I've done on
the
>>> /etc/network/interfaces.
>>> How can avoid this way of work of the number of ethernet interface
the
>>> guest start?
>>>
>>> Why are you doing a manual/static definition on the guest at all?
It's
>>> simpler to just leave the guest to automatically configure its
eth0, and if
>>> you really want a particular IP address for a particular guest,
handle that
>>> with a <host> element in the <dhcp> section of the
virtual network the guest
>>> is connected to (or, if you're using a pure bridging setup,
then in the
>>> static hosts config of the dhcp server on that network).
>>>
>>>
>>> A way i'm trying to solve is configuring the interface trough
the guest
>>> xml definition,
>>>
>>> The guest xml interface configuration cannot be used to setup the
IP
>>> address, route, etc config of the guest. It is only used for two
things:
>>>
>>> 1) configuring what kind of hardware appears on the guest (but not
what
>>> name the guest gives to it!)
>>>
>>> 2) configuring how that hardware is connected to the physical
network
>>> (usually either via an existing bridge interface on the host (in
order for
>>> the guest to appear as if its directly connected to the physical
network),
>>> or via a "virtual network" created by libvirt (which is
really just a bridge
>>> that's not directly connected to any physical interface,
relying instead on
>>> the host's IP stack to route packets from the guest out to the
physical
>>> network.)
>>>
>>> but the operation "define" on virsh accepted without
error the xml i've
>>> done, but the dumpxml doesn't show them, so, it doesn't
work at all.
>>> I've followed the instruction that said the manual
"Application
>>> development guide - a guide to application development with
libvirt" on page
>>> 71.
>>>
>>>
>>> That document is targeted towards software developers writing
>>> applications to manage virtual guests using the libvirt API, not
for system
>>> administrators who are configuring virtual guests manually (or,
more likely,
>>> by using software that uses the libvirt API, eg virsh or
virt-manager). It
>>> likely contains more detail and less overview than what you need,
which is
>>> probably what led to the confusion. I've included a pointer to
a wiki page
>>> below that is more the appropriate level of information (Justin, if
the docs
>>> you were working on are somewhere easily accessible, you can point
to those
>>> instead.)
>>>
>>>
>>> The whole definition of the VM is attached, but the related to
interface
>>> is:
>>> ??? <interface type='bridge'>
>>> ????? <source bridge='br0'/>
>>> ????? <target dev='vnet0'/>
>>> ??? <protocol>
>>> ??? ??? <ip address="192.168.1.41"
prefix="24"/>
>>> ??? ??? <route gateway="192.168.1.10"/>
>>> ??? </protocol>
>>> ??? <bridge stp="off" delay="0.01">
>>> ??? <interface type="ethernet"
name="eth12">
>>> ??? <protocol>
>>> ??? ??? <ip address="192.168.1.41"
prefix="24"/>
>>> ??? ??? <route gateway="192.168.1.10"/>
>>> ??? </protocol>
>>> ??? </interface>
>>> ??? </bridge>
>>> ??? </interface>
>>>
>>>
>>> You are confusing the guest interface config (that is part of the
guest's
>>> XML config, and described above), and host physical interface
config (that
>>> is not in any way associated with guest config, but instead used to
>>> configure the host's physical network interfaces, bridges,
bonds, and vlan
>>> interfaces; and nearly as important, is not supported on Ubuntu
anyway).
>>>
>>> Actual guest interface config is *much* simpler than that.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> But after define, the dumpxml only show this part:
>>> ??? <interface type='bridge'>
>>> ????? <mac address='52:54:00:3c:92:9a'/>
>>> ????? <source bridge='br0'/>
>>> ??? </interface>
>>>
>>>
>>> That's because everything else you've put in your guest
config is not
>>> actually a part of a valid guest interface config, and so is
ignored.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> I would appreciate any help to solve the question. The problem
I've is I
>>> lost the access to the guest every time the libvirt change the name
of the
>>> interface eth1,2,3, etc.
>>>
>>> In this case I think it may be useful to start over. You've
somehow been
>>> tricked into misunderstanding the way that network configuration in
libvirt
>>> works, confusing host interface config with guest interface config,
and the
>>> resulting config bears little resemblance to what would actually
work.
>>>
>>> =>>> The first step is to read this page:
>>>
>>> ?? http://wiki.libvirt.org/page/Networking
>>>
>>> to get a basic overview.
>>>
>>> =>>> Second step: you should decide which of the three
methods of connecting
>>> to guests to the physical network you want to use:
>>>
>>> 1) NATed
>>> 2) routed
>>> 3) bridged
>>>
>>> The simplest is (1), and that will probably work just fine as long
as 1)
>>> you don't need incoming connections to the guests, and 2)
you're not
>>> concerned about getting the last fraction of an ounce of
performance out of
>>> the network.
>>>
>>> Depending on which of those 3 you decide to use:
>>>
>>> =>>> Third step: follow the instructions to either create
a bridge interface
>>> on the host connected to a physical network interface (for (3)), or
to
>>> create a libvirt virtual network using one of the two modes ((1) or
(2) -
>>> actually the stock libvirt config already has a "default"
network that is
>>> probably adequate for (1), and unless you understand IP routing
very well,
>>> you'll likely want to avoid (2)).
>>>
>>> Once the physical network is setup:
>>>
>>> =>>> Fourth step: define your guests. In each guest,
you'll have an
>>> <interface> element, but it will be much simpler than what
you've previously
>>> tried. For bridged mode, the interface section would look like
this:
>>>
>>> ? <interface type='bridge'>
>>> ??? <source bridge='br0'/>
>>> ? </interface>
>>>
>>> Depending on the guest, you may want to specify what type of
hardware is
>>> presented to the guest (default is rtl, which almost always works,
but is
>>> not the best perfrorming), in particular, if the guest supports
virtio-net,
>>> you'll want to add this into the <interface> element:
>>>
>>> ? <model type='virtio'/>
>>>
>>> For NATed or routed mode, the guest's interface definition
would look
>>> like this:
>>>
>>>   <interface type='network'>
>>>      <source network='default'/>
>>>   </interface>
>>>
>>> (replace "default" with the name of the network
you've defined, if you've
>>> defined your own). In this case also, you can add a <model
type='...'/> if
>>> appropriate.
>>>
>>> Note that I don't put anything in the <interface> element
about MAC
>>> address, target device, or bus address. Those are all setup
automatically by
>>> libvirt the first time you start the guest, and it will make sure
that the
>>> guests don't interfere with each other.
>>>
>>> =>>> Fifth step: only if you need a particular guest to
have a particular
>>> fixed IP address, either 1) edit the network config file on the
guest, 2)
>>> add a static host to the libvirt virtual network definition (giving
the MAC
>>> address provided to the guest by libvirt during the initial guest
startup)
>>> with a <host> element added to the <dhcp> element of
the network; details
>>> are here:
>>>
>>> ??? http://www.libvirt.org/formatnetwork.html
>>>
>>> or 3) if you're using the bridged method to connect to the
physical
>>> network, again either configure the guest's own config file, or
add a static
>>> host definition to the dhcp server running on your physical
network.
>>>
>>> If you still have problems don't hesitate to send another mail
(although,
>>> as I said at the top, sending to libvirt-users at redhat.com may
yield better
>>> results than libvir-list at redhat.com).
>>
>
>
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