On Thu, 27 Jan 2005 11:38:06 +0200, Mohamed Eldesoky <eldesoky.lists@gmail.com> wrote:> Why you don't develop ices0.4 anymore ?? > Or even add the mp3 features to ices2 !! > Why maintain two codebases ??Ices 0.x is still developed. So is ices2. They're independent codebases with substantially different capabilities and users. Yes, in retrospect naming it ices2 was a poor idea. Too late to correct that one, though... We won't add mp3 capabilities to ices2 as it is intended as part of Xiph.Org's strategy to get users using freely available and freely implementable codecs (such as vorbis, theora, etc.). The patent restrictions on mp3 mean that it violates these aims. Mike
Michael Smith wrote:> We won't add mp3 capabilities to ices2 as it is intended as part of > Xiph.Org's strategy to get users using freely available and freely > implementable codecs (such as vorbis, theora, etc.).Hmm. In some cases, the lack of mp3 support has the exact opposite effect. To wit: I have a huge collection of mp3s which I would like to broadcast as .ogg, but I don't want to recode them permanently. If ices2 could read mp3 and recode it to ogg on the fly, I'd be doing just that. Because it can't, I end up using ices 0.4 and broadcasting mp3 against my wish to support ogg. The ability for ices2 to read mp3 seems to be a much-wanted feature, so I'd like to suggest that you consider (yet again) one-way mp3 compatibility. Just look at Microsoft. One-way compatibility was the key to the success of their .doc format: Word could convert mostly everything to .doc while it could not convert .doc to anything at all. Why not do something equally nasty to .mp3 if you can? Z -- The best defence against logic is ignorance.
On Sat, 2005-02-26 at 22:47, Zenon Panoussis wrote:> Hmm. In some cases, the lack of mp3 support has the exact opposite > effect. To wit: I have a huge collection of mp3s which I would like > to broadcast as .ogg, but I don't want to recode them permanently. > If ices2 could read mp3 and recode it to ogg on the fly, I'd be doing > just that. Because it can't, I end up using ices 0.4 and broadcasting > mp3 against my wish to support ogg. > > The ability for ices2 to read mp3 seems to be a much-wanted feature, > so I'd like to suggest that you consider (yet again) one-way mp3 > compatibility. Just look at Microsoft. One-way compatibility was the > key to the success of their .doc format: Word could convert mostly > everything to .doc while it could not convert .doc to anything at > all. Why not do something equally nasty to .mp3 if you can?Currently you can transcode from mp3 via the DSP from a separate app such as xmms. The only other mechanism I can see being implemented is a mechanism such as invoking an external decoder for extracting PCM and fed back into ices. karl.