At 04:14 AM 9/14/2004, you wrote:>JLB wrote: >>Sorry, gang. The FAQ didn't seem to answer me, nor did Googling... >>I merely want a simple solution to do the following: >>I am setting up a streaming server for in-house use. >>I want it to broadcast the RAW MP3 DATA from my actual MP3 files, as I >>listen to them in xmms. >>In other words, I DO NOT want: >>XMMS ---> decode to wave ---> re-encode to MP3 ---> icecast ---> listeners >>I want: >>XMMS ---> icecast ---> listeners >>Surely this is do-able using a VBR stream? In other words, I DO NOT want >>my MP3s to be decoded, then re-encoded, then sent over the network (the >>re-encoding, of course, introducing further lossiness). I want the actual >>raw MP3 frames to be sent as a VBR stream to the listeners. I want the MP3 >>to sound PRECISELY as good on the listening machine as on my machine. >>Surely this is do-able? > >http://www.oddsock.org/tools/oddcastv2_xmms/my plugin reencodes, so I don't think that's what you want. In fact, I don't know of any way to use XMMS in this way. The problem, is that by the time the DSP plugin gets the audio data, it's already been decoded. You'd have to write an XMMS input plugin to somehow intercept the data and send it along to an icecast server. Nothing like this has been written as far as I know. alternatively, you can use ices or ezstream in "non-reencoding" mode, which is the closest to what you want. oddsock>Stephen >-- >LiveIce Project http://liveice.sourceforge.net/ >_______________________________________________ >Icecast mailing list >Icecast@xiph.org >http://lists.xiph.org/mailman/listinfo/icecast >
You mentioned these programs and their "no-reencoding" mode. Can they handle collections of MP3s of different bitrate? On Tue, 14 Sep 2004, oddsock wrote:> Date: Tue, 14 Sep 2004 09:08:17 -0500 > From: oddsock <oddsock@oddsock.org> > To: icecast@xiph.org > Subject: Re: [Icecast] Questions on setting up icecast > > At 04:14 AM 9/14/2004, you wrote: > >JLB wrote: > >>Sorry, gang. The FAQ didn't seem to answer me, nor did Googling... > >>I merely want a simple solution to do the following: > >>I am setting up a streaming server for in-house use. > >>I want it to broadcast the RAW MP3 DATA from my actual MP3 files, as I > >>listen to them in xmms. > >>In other words, I DO NOT want: > >>XMMS ---> decode to wave ---> re-encode to MP3 ---> icecast ---> listeners > >>I want: > >>XMMS ---> icecast ---> listeners > >>Surely this is do-able using a VBR stream? In other words, I DO NOT want > >>my MP3s to be decoded, then re-encoded, then sent over the network (the > >>re-encoding, of course, introducing further lossiness). I want the actual > >>raw MP3 frames to be sent as a VBR stream to the listeners. I want the MP3 > >>to sound PRECISELY as good on the listening machine as on my machine. > >>Surely this is do-able? > > > >http://www.oddsock.org/tools/oddcastv2_xmms/ > > my plugin reencodes, so I don't think that's what you want. In fact, I > don't know of any way to use XMMS in this way. The problem, is that by the > time the DSP plugin gets the audio data, it's already been decoded. You'd > have to write an XMMS input plugin to somehow intercept the data and send > it along to an icecast server. Nothing like this has been written as far > as I know. > > alternatively, you can use ices or ezstream in "non-reencoding" mode, which > is the closest to what you want. > > > oddsock > > >Stephen > >-- > >LiveIce Project http://liveice.sourceforge.net/ > >_______________________________________________ > >Icecast mailing list > >Icecast@xiph.org > >http://lists.xiph.org/mailman/listinfo/icecast > > > > > _______________________________________________ > Icecast mailing list > Icecast@xiph.org > http://lists.xiph.org/mailman/listinfo/icecast >-- J. L. Blank, Systems Administrator, twu.net
yep, they simply forward the bitstream to icecast. And in general, bitrate changes are handled by most listening clients, although very few I have found (if any) can handle samplerate changes appropriately. oddsock At 10:03 AM 9/14/2004, you wrote:>You mentioned these programs and their "no-reencoding" mode. Can they >handle collections of MP3s of different bitrate? > >On Tue, 14 Sep 2004, oddsock wrote: > > > Date: Tue, 14 Sep 2004 09:08:17 -0500 > > From: oddsock <oddsock@oddsock.org> > > To: icecast@xiph.org > > Subject: Re: [Icecast] Questions on setting up icecast > > > > At 04:14 AM 9/14/2004, you wrote: > > >JLB wrote: > > >>Sorry, gang. The FAQ didn't seem to answer me, nor did Googling... > > >>I merely want a simple solution to do the following: > > >>I am setting up a streaming server for in-house use. > > >>I want it to broadcast the RAW MP3 DATA from my actual MP3 files, as I > > >>listen to them in xmms. > > >>In other words, I DO NOT want: > > >>XMMS ---> decode to wave ---> re-encode to MP3 ---> icecast ---> > listeners > > >>I want: > > >>XMMS ---> icecast ---> listeners > > >>Surely this is do-able using a VBR stream? In other words, I DO NOT want > > >>my MP3s to be decoded, then re-encoded, then sent over the network (the > > >>re-encoding, of course, introducing further lossiness). I want the actual > > >>raw MP3 frames to be sent as a VBR stream to the listeners. I want > the MP3 > > >>to sound PRECISELY as good on the listening machine as on my machine. > > >>Surely this is do-able? > > > > > >http://www.oddsock.org/tools/oddcastv2_xmms/ > > > > my plugin reencodes, so I don't think that's what you want. In fact, I > > don't know of any way to use XMMS in this way. The problem, is that by the > > time the DSP plugin gets the audio data, it's already been decoded. You'd > > have to write an XMMS input plugin to somehow intercept the data and send > > it along to an icecast server. Nothing like this has been written as far > > as I know. > > > > alternatively, you can use ices or ezstream in "non-reencoding" mode, which > > is the closest to what you want. > > > > > > oddsock > > > > >Stephen > > >-- > > >LiveIce Project http://liveice.sourceforge.net/ > > >_______________________________________________ > > >Icecast mailing list > > >Icecast@xiph.org > > >http://lists.xiph.org/mailman/listinfo/icecast > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Icecast mailing list > > Icecast@xiph.org > > http://lists.xiph.org/mailman/listinfo/icecast > > > >-- >J. L. Blank, Systems Administrator, twu.net