Am 04.09.2018 um 18:27 schrieb Sami Ketola:> > >> On 4 Sep 2018, at 18.38, Robert Schetterer <rs at sys4.de> wrote: >> >> Sorry i migrated terrabytes of mail with imapsync and never had a >> problem, it works as designed, also with maildir rsync did a good job, >> what never worked as it should was dsync ,cause of bugs ,that may >> changed now >> > > I would like to very much hear about the problems you had with dsync as we have successfully migrated tens of petabytes of mails with it successfully while preserving the UID numbers. > Imapsync would have been totally out of question as it is absolutely crucial in those migrations to keep the UID -> MAIL pairs matching legacy server. And usually also POP3 UIDLs. If not keeping the data the servers would have literally melted under load when switching over then of thousands of users forcing them to redownload headers of even mail bodies for millions of mails. > > Sami > >I think you should know the dove buglist, i used dovecot since the beginning and believe me dsync had a lot of problems, as i stated i hope this had changed now. I didnt used/tested it again the last years cause i had no big migration job to do, we ever tried to use it that days cause youre right we would have prefer not broke pop3 stuff at migration. But it never worked, so imapsync was the best way to go, also having courier, cyrus migrations with format/namespace change etc. Imapsync works as designed and migration might not be ideal at some points but it has no real stoppers if migration is well prepared and organized. Best Regards MfG Robert Schetterer -- [*] sys4 AG http://sys4.de, +49 (89) 30 90 46 64 Schlei?heimer Stra?e 26/MG, 80333 M?nchen Sitz der Gesellschaft: M?nchen, Amtsgericht M?nchen: HRB 199263 Vorstand: Patrick Ben Koetter, Marc Schiffbauer Aufsichtsratsvorsitzender: Florian Kirstein
> On 04 September 2018 at 23:20 Robert Schetterer <rs at sys4.de> wrote: > > > Am 04.09.2018 um 18:27 schrieb Sami Ketola: > > > > > >> On 4 Sep 2018, at 18.38, Robert Schetterer <rs at sys4.de> wrote: > >> > >> Sorry i migrated terrabytes of mail with imapsync and never had a > >> problem, it works as designed, also with maildir rsync did a good job, > >> what never worked as it should was dsync ,cause of bugs ,that may > >> changed now > >> > > > > I would like to very much hear about the problems you had with dsync as we have successfully migrated tens of petabytes of mails with it successfully while preserving the UID numbers. > > Imapsync would have been totally out of question as it is absolutely crucial in those migrations to keep the UID -> MAIL pairs matching legacy server. And usually also POP3 UIDLs. If not keeping the data the servers would have literally melted under load when switching over then of thousands of users forcing them to redownload headers of even mail bodies for millions of mails. > > > > Sami > > > > > > I think you should know the dove buglist, i used dovecot since the beginning > and believe me dsync had a lot of problems, as i stated i hope this had > changed now. I didnt used/tested it again the last years cause i had no > big migration job to do, we ever tried to use it that days cause youre > right we would have prefer not broke pop3 stuff at migration. But it > never worked, so imapsync was the best way to go, also having courier, > cyrus migrations with format/namespace change etc. > > Imapsync works as designed and migration might not be ideal at some > points but it has no real stoppers if migration is well prepared and > organized. > > > Best Regards > MfG Robert SchettererThere has been progress with dsync in the past years, and it can do courier and cyrus migrations with format/namespace changes. "Few years ago" is a long time. Aki> > -- > [*] sys4 AG > > http://sys4.de, +49 (89) 30 90 46 64 > Schlei?heimer Stra?e 26/MG, 80333 M?nchen > > Sitz der Gesellschaft: M?nchen, Amtsgericht M?nchen: HRB 199263 > Vorstand: Patrick Ben Koetter, Marc Schiffbauer > Aufsichtsratsvorsitzender: Florian Kirstein
Am 05.09.2018 um 07:37 schrieb Aki Tuomi:> >> On 04 September 2018 at 23:20 Robert Schetterer <rs at sys4.de> wrote: >> >> >> Am 04.09.2018 um 18:27 schrieb Sami Ketola: >>> >>> >>>> On 4 Sep 2018, at 18.38, Robert Schetterer <rs at sys4.de> wrote: >>>> >>>> Sorry i migrated terrabytes of mail with imapsync and never had a >>>> problem, it works as designed, also with maildir rsync did a good job, >>>> what never worked as it should was dsync ,cause of bugs ,that may >>>> changed now >>>> >>> >>> I would like to very much hear about the problems you had with dsync as we have successfully migrated tens of petabytes of mails with it successfully while preserving the UID numbers. >>> Imapsync would have been totally out of question as it is absolutely crucial in those migrations to keep the UID -> MAIL pairs matching legacy server. And usually also POP3 UIDLs. If not keeping the data the servers would have literally melted under load when switching over then of thousands of users forcing them to redownload headers of even mail bodies for millions of mails. >>> >>> Sami >>> >>> >> >> I think you should know the dove buglist, i used dovecot since the beginning >> and believe me dsync had a lot of problems, as i stated i hope this had >> changed now. I didnt used/tested it again the last years cause i had no >> big migration job to do, we ever tried to use it that days cause youre >> right we would have prefer not broke pop3 stuff at migration. But it >> never worked, so imapsync was the best way to go, also having courier, >> cyrus migrations with format/namespace change etc. >> >> Imapsync works as designed and migration might not be ideal at some >> points but it has no real stoppers if migration is well prepared and >> organized. >> >> >> Best Regards >> MfG Robert Schetterer > > There has been progress with dsync in the past years, and it can do courier and cyrus migrations with format/namespace changes. "Few years ago" is a long time.we will give a retry end of this year and report> > Aki >> >> -- >> [*] sys4 AG >> >> http://sys4.de, +49 (89) 30 90 46 64 >> Schlei?heimer Stra?e 26/MG, 80333 M?nchen >> >> Sitz der Gesellschaft: M?nchen, Amtsgericht M?nchen: HRB 199263 >> Vorstand: Patrick Ben Koetter, Marc Schiffbauer >> Aufsichtsratsvorsitzender: Florian Kirstein-- [*] sys4 AG https://sys4.de, +49 (89) 30 90 46 64 Schlei?heimer Stra?e 26/MG,80333 M?nchen Sitz der Gesellschaft: M?nchen, Amtsgericht M?nchen: HRB 199263 Vorstand: Patrick Ben Koetter, Marc Schiffbauer, Wolfgang Stief Aufsichtsratsvorsitzender: Florian Kirstein