Hi, Can you tell me what ate differences in the source code between the original Red Hat yum and the one which Centos uses for updates? Regards Peter -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: <http://lists.centos.org/pipermail/centos/attachments/20110110/66610d8c/attachment-0002.html>
On 01/09/2011 11:13 PM, derleader __ wrote:> Hi, > Can you tell me what ate differences in the source code between the > original Red Hat yum and the one which Centos uses for updatethere are no differences functionally, they are now identical packages. - KB
>On 01/09/2011 11:13 PM, derleader __ wrote:>> Hi, >> Can you tell me what ate differences in the source code between the >> original Red Hat yum and the one which Centos uses for update > >there are no differences functionally, they are now identical packages. > >- KB >_______________________________________________ >CentOS mailing list >CentOS at centos.org >http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos > Red hat yum downloads packages from RHN Centos yum downloads packages from the fastest mirror? There is difference in configuration. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: <http://lists.centos.org/pipermail/centos/attachments/20110110/d980e21a/attachment-0002.html>
On 01/09/2011 11:35 PM, derleader __ wrote:> > >On 01/09/2011 11:13 PM, derleader __ wrote: > >> Hi,your email client is still broken - KB
Yes it's free webmail. I don't understand what is broken in my web
client?
>On 01/09/11 3:36 PM, Karanbir Singh wrote:
>> On 01/09/2011 11:35 PM, derleader __ wrote:
>>> >On 01/09/2011 11:13 PM, derleader __ wrote:
>>> >> Hi,
>> your email client is still broken
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>he appears to be using some kind of Bulgarian webmail ('abvmail'
which
>is roughly ABC Mail, www.abv.bg) :-/
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On Sun, Jan 9, 2011 at 4:02 PM, derleader mail <derleader at abv.bg> wrote:> Yes it's free webmail. I don't understand what is broken in my web client?It doesn't appear to know how to create the special In-Reply-To: and/or References: headers that sophisticated email clients use to track conversational threads.
> Red hat yum downloads packages from RHN > Centos yum downloads packages from the fastest mirror? > > There is difference in configuration.Redhat uses yum rhnplugin to download packages from rhnet. It's only difference. rhnplugin is closed source system that ties into rhn.redhat.com -- Eero
>On Sun, Jan 9, 2011 at 4:02 PM, derleader mail wrote:>> Yes it's free webmail. I don't understand what is broken in my web client? > >It doesn't appear to know how to create the special In-Reply-To: >and/or References: headers that sophisticated email clients use to >track conversational threads. >_______________________________________________ >CentOS mailing list >CentOS at centos.org >http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos > What do you use for mail client? -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: <http://lists.centos.org/pipermail/centos/attachments/20110110/7c49a7dd/attachment-0002.html>
On Sun, Jan 9, 2011 at 7:02 PM, derleader mail <derleader at abv.bg> wrote:> Yes it's free webmail. I don't understand what is broken in my web client?Well, you are replying *before* the quoted message. You may also be sending HTML (which is showing up correctly in my GMail interface.) Please use plain text for technical mailing lists, for the following reasons. (I say this as a subscriber, not as an admin.) * Almost all spam is HTML. Almost all text email has real content: it makes spam filters far more reliably to consistently use plain text. * Plain text is far more legible to the search engines. * Plain text is ar more manageable for mailing list software. * Plain text is far *smaller* for mailing list archives. * Plain text is far more reliable for Linux command line mail readers, such as Emacs and Pine. * Many CentOS users are restricted on graphical access to their email, due to bandwidth and running their email over X sessions to a Linux box or or to a webmail client. (I use GMail, for external access.) * Some of get 1000 messages a day because we get monitoring email. At that point, little economies help.
>> Red hat yum downloads packages from RHN>> Centos yum downloads packages from the fastest mirror? >> >> There is difference in configuration. > >Redhat uses yum rhnplugin to download packages from rhnet. > >It's only difference. rhnplugin is closed source system that ties into >rhn.redhat.com http://ftp.redhat.com/pub/redhat/linux/enterprise/6Server/en/os/SRPMS/yum-rhn-plugin-0.9.1-5.el6.src.rpm Is this the package? > >-- >Eero >_______________________________________________ >CentOS mailing list >CentOS at centos.org >http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: <http://lists.centos.org/pipermail/centos/attachments/20110110/aced53fd/attachment-0002.html>
On Sun, Jan 9, 2011 at 7:20 PM, derleader mail <derleader at abv.bg> wrote:>>> Red hat yum downloads packages from RHN >>> Centos yum downloads packages from the fastest mirror? >>> >>> There is difference in configuration. >> >>Redhat uses yum rhnplugin to download packages from rhnet. >> >>It's only difference. rhnplugin is closed source system that ties into >>rhn.redhat.com > > http://ftp.redhat.com/pub/redhat/linux/enterprise/6Server/en/os/SRPMS/yum-rhn-plugin-0.9.1-5.el6.src.rpm > > Is this the package?Yes, and it has a stack of dependencies to manage RHEL authentication. Frankly, I always disable it except on a host that is downloading a local RHEL mirror with "reposync", and which is my local yum repository. That makes the components available to non-root users for review and downloading, one of the great flaws of that plugin.
>On Sun, Jan 9, 2011 at 7:20 PM, derleader mail wrote:>>>> Red hat yum downloads packages from RHN >>>> Centos yum downloads packages from the fastest mirror? >>>> >>>> There is difference in configuration. >>> >>>Redhat uses yum rhnplugin to download packages from rhnet. >>> >>>It's only difference. rhnplugin is closed source system that ties into >>>rhn.redhat.com >> >> http://ftp.redhat.com/pub/redhat/linux/enterprise/6Server/en/os/SRPMS/yum-rhn-plugin-0.9.1-5.el6.src.rpm >> >> Is this the package? > >Yes, and it has a stack of dependencies to manage RHEL authentication. >Frankly, I always disable it except on a host that is downloading a >local RHEL mirror with "reposync", and which is my local yum >repository. That makes the components available to non-root users for >review and downloading, one of the great flaws of that plugin. Do you know where I can find extensive information how the mechanism of updates works. Is there development documentation which shows how the source code works? So far I haven't seen such papers. I'm not experienced developer so I can't trace the source code to see how it works. And I'm going to change to change my web mail soon. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: <http://lists.centos.org/pipermail/centos/attachments/20110110/68d061d3/attachment-0002.html>
On Sun, Jan 9, 2011 at 7:30 PM, derleader mail <derleader at abv.bg> wrote:>>On Sun, Jan 9, 2011 at 7:20 PM, derleader mail wrote: >>>>> Red hat yum downloads packages from RHN >>>>> Centos yum downloads packages from the fastest mirror? >>>>> >>>>> There is difference in configuration. >>>> >>>>Redhat uses yum rhnplugin to download packages from rhnet. >>>> >>>>It's only difference. rhnplugin is closed source system that ties into >>>>rhn.redhat.com >>> >>> >>> http://ftp.redhat.com/pub/redhat/linux/enterprise/6Server/en/os/SRPMS/yum-rhn-plugin-0.9.1-5.el6.src.rpm >>> >>> Is this the package? >> >>Yes, and it has a stack of dependencies to manage RHEL authentication. >>Frankly, I always disable it except on a host that is downloading a >>local RHEL mirror with "reposync", and which is my local yum >>repository. That makes the components available to non-root users for >>review and downloading, one of the great flaws of that plugin. > > > Do you know where I can find extensive information how the mechanism of > updates works. Is there development documentation which shows how the source > code works? So far I haven't seen such papers. I'm not experienced developer > so I can't trace the source code to see how it works.The "yum-rhn-plugin" is "up2date" in sheep's clothing. Review the older, RHEL 4 documentation on "up2date" to understand how it works, and you can review the source code itself. I understand that it's based on the "spacewalk" toolkit: you can investigate and even buy support for RHN in-house, but it's Oracle based, and a significant configuration burden to run your own. I don't bother. reposync and yum configurations, baby, with some manual kickstart integration. For environments of less than 1000 systems, that's plenty if you can do shell scripts or Makefiles intelligently.
Dne 10.1.2011 00:35, derleader __ napsal(a):> Red hat yum downloads packages from RHN > Centos yum downloads packages from the fastest mirror? > > There is difference in configuration.yum can use plugins and in this case RHEL yum uses rhnplugin for communicating with RHN/Satellite. Yum itself (from yum.src.rpm) is same. Best, Mat?j