Peter Mitchell
2007-Jan-25 05:05 UTC
[asterisk-users] Do I need a CH1 licence for Cisco Phones ?
I've got a question regarding Cisco IP Phones and licencing. When using a third party PBX like asterisk is a licence required for the Cisco phones ? Has anyone got anything in writing from Cisco to clarify this ? Eg can I just use CP-7961G or do I need CP-7961G-CH1 even though I'm not using Cisco Callmanager ? HYPERLINK "http://www.voip-info.org/wiki/view/Exposing+the+Cisco+Call+Manager+License+ Scam"http://www.voip-info.org/wiki/view/Exposing+the+Cisco+Call+Manager+Lice nse+Scam says no licence required. Cisco site mentions All Cisco Unified IP phones require the purchase of a phone technology license, regardless of call protocol being used. HYPERLINK "http://www.cisco.com/en/US/products/hw/phones/ps379/products_data_sheet0900 aecd802ff020.html"http://www.cisco.com/en/US/products/hw/phones/ps379/produc ts_data_sheet0900aecd802ff020.html Cheers Peter -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.410 / Virus Database: 268.17.10/651 - Release Date: 24/01/2007 -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://lists.digium.com/pipermail/asterisk-users/attachments/20070125/480a979b/attachment.htm
Pavel Jezek
2007-Jan-25 06:12 UTC
[asterisk-users] Do I need a CH1 licence for Cisco Phones ?
I think, ci$co phones can not be even purchased without licence... btw, what is your reason, to buy ci$co phones, when known issues exist with this phones, if working with anything other than callmanager? :-\ PJ Peter Mitchell wrote:> > I've got a question regarding Cisco IP Phones and licencing. > > When using a third party PBX like asterisk is a licence required for > the Cisco phones ? Has anyone got anything in writing from Cisco to > clarify this ? > > Eg can I just use CP-7961G or do I need CP-7961G-CH1 even though I'm > not using Cisco Callmanager ? > > > > http://www.voip-info.org/wiki/view/Exposing+the+Cisco+Call+Manager+License+Scam > says no licence required. > > > > Cisco site mentions All Cisco Unified IP phones require the purchase > of a phone technology license, regardless of call protocol being used. > > > > http://www.cisco.com/en/US/products/hw/phones/ps379/products_data_sheet0900aecd802ff020.html > > > Cheers > Peter > > > -- > No virus found in this outgoing message. > Checked by AVG Free Edition. > Version: 7.1.410 / Virus Database: 268.17.10/651 - Release Date: > 24/01/2007 > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > _______________________________________________ > --Bandwidth and Colocation provided by Easynews.com -- > > asterisk-users mailing list > To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: > http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users >
Cory Andrews
2007-Jan-25 08:05 UTC
[asterisk-users] Do I need a CH1 licence for Cisco Phones ?
Technically, Cisco requires you to purchase both a Smartnet (To obtain a CCO login for access to firmware), as well as a SIP/MGCP license token, to utilize their phones with SIP firmware, regardless of platform. The CH1 nomenclature applies to Callmanager, the CCME nomenclature applies to Callmanager Express. The appropriate license for SIP is SW-SM-UL-7960 if you are using a Cisco 7960G phone. The Cisco description for this license is "SIP & MGCP LICENSE FOR SINGLE 7960 IP PHONE" The article referenced in the WIKI referenced in this thread is not entirely correct, in a few aspects. A - Technically, a user needs a Smartnet for CCO access to firmware, as well as a SIP/MGCP license to legitimately utilize Cisco's SIP firmware, irregardless of platform. B - The WIKI article also states that if you are using Callmanager and you receive phones from a reseller that do not have a part # on the label ending in CH1, that they are Spares and not Callmanager licensed phones. This is also technically incorrect. In recent months I have seen Cisco ship phones classified as CH1 (Callmanager) licensed, without a CH1 part number on the box label. Cisco tracks licensing by the unique serial number of the phone, and I have seen them bulk register spare phones as CH1 licensed phones, simply by updating their serial number database accordingly and tagging serial numbers and licensed. It amounts to a "virtual" license, and likely allows Cisco to better manage their inventory, as they can utilize phones originally produced as spares, and easily convert them to CH1 licensed phones, just by updating their serial number database accordingly. Another common myth is that if you purchase used phones that were originally sold as CH1 or CCME licensed units, that the license it transferrable to the new owner of the phone. According to Cisco, this is not true, and a user is supposed to bear the cost of re-licensing. It is quite confusing, and am neither supporting, nor critizing the model, just relaying my experience. I manage a business division that is a Cisco premier partner with Unified CallManager Express specialization and deal with licensing on a regular basis. Cory Andrews -----Original Message----- From: asterisk-users-bounces@lists.digium.com [mailto:asterisk-users-bounces@lists.digium.com] On Behalf Of Pavel Jezek Sent: Thursday, January 25, 2007 8:12 AM To: asterisk-users@lists.digium.com Subject: Re: [asterisk-users] Do I need a CH1 licence for Cisco Phones ? I think, ci$co phones can not be even purchased without licence... btw, what is your reason, to buy ci$co phones, when known issues exist with this phones, if working with anything other than callmanager? :-\ PJ Peter Mitchell wrote:> > I've got a question regarding Cisco IP Phones and licencing. > > When using a third party PBX like asterisk is a licence required for > the Cisco phones ? Has anyone got anything in writing from Cisco to > clarify this ? > > Eg can I just use CP-7961G or do I need CP-7961G-CH1 even though I'm > not using Cisco Callmanager ? > > > >http://www.voip-info.org/wiki/view/Exposing+the+Cisco+Call+Manager+Licen se+Scam> says no licence required. > > > > Cisco site mentions All Cisco Unified IP phones require the purchase > of a phone technology license, regardless of call protocol being used. > > > >http://www.cisco.com/en/US/products/hw/phones/ps379/products_data_sheet0 900aecd802ff020.html> > > Cheers > Peter > > > -- > No virus found in this outgoing message. > Checked by AVG Free Edition. > Version: 7.1.410 / Virus Database: 268.17.10/651 - Release Date: > 24/01/2007 > >------------------------------------------------------------------------> > _______________________________________________ > --Bandwidth and Colocation provided by Easynews.com -- > > asterisk-users mailing list > To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: > http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users >_______________________________________________ --Bandwidth and Colocation provided by Easynews.com -- asterisk-users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users