asterisk users - Aug 2005 - BRI Hunting, using both channels on one msn

Hello All,
Has anyone configured bri to answer for only one msn?  In essence, when
the primary is busy I want to have channel 2 ring.

I am using an eicon diva server bri

I know I saw it in the windows interface, but don't see it in the linux
setup.

Regards,
Greg

On Mon, 15 Aug 2005 gw@adcomcorp.com wrote:
> Hello All,
> Has anyone configured bri to answer for only one msn?  In essence, when
> the primary is busy I want to have channel 2 ring.
> 
> I am using an eicon diva server bri
> 
> I know I saw it in the windows interface, but don't see it in the linux
> setup.
This is normal behaviour. What exactly is your problem?

Armin

Hello Armin,
I tried your new version of chan capi and it works well.

I did have one question about capi.conf.  I have a bri with 2 spids, but
I want to have the second go to a zap fax channel.

Right now I can direct it, but the echo canceller is setting up.  Do you
know a way to cancel it?  Fax works, but I suspect it would work better
with EC off on large faxes.
I tried the capi fax receive, but the images came out with the wrong
dimensions(on .05).

Also,
Is there a way to split each msn into a different call group in
capi.conf?  I tried a few combinations but no luck.
I was thinking I could disable the EC for the line in general.

Oh as per the hunt, I had verizon program a hunt into the line and it
seems to work now.  It is funny though, since I think my usrobotics
modem can also do it, I just don't know exactly how it is handled.  capi
just causes the line to report a busy.

And there is a new eicon driver that works on 2.6.


Thanks,
Greg
-----Original Message-----
From: armin@melware.de [mailto:armin@melware.de] 
Sent: Tuesday, August 16, 2005 4:49 AM
To: Gregory Wiktor - ADCom Corp.
Subject: RE: [Asterisk-Users] BRI Hunting, using both channels on one
msn

Hi Greg,

now I understand. You use NI-1 with spids. I'm sorry, I don't know
anything about this protocol. ETSI does not have this 'channel-problem'.

Maybe it can be solved with some load parameters for the BRI card.
You should use the latest driver and divactrl (possibly the SRPM from
Eicon).

regards,
Armin

On Tue, 16 Aug 2005 gw@adcomcorp.com wrote:
>  Hello Armin,
> My setup is as follows:  I have 1 bri with 2 spid's, or msn's.  
> 2781980 and 2781984.
> 
> If a call comes in to 2781980, and is active, and another call comes 
> in to 2781980, the second call will be busy.
> 
> A call to 278-1984 will proceed while the 1980 is busy.
> 
> The telco tells me though that the bri should be capable of hunting on
> it's own.
> 
> I did this in the past with modem banks, but they were on top of 
> centrex.
> 
> What I would like to do is put an 800 number to point to the 278-1980,
> and for the most part not use the 278-1984 except for maybe a disa.
> 
> The eiconctrl monitor app is aware that the line is busy, and I do not
> believe it is notifying asterisk of the issue.
> 
> I am trying to move some lines to bri since my audio quality on pots 
> has been horrible.  The isdn is great, especially since you told me of
> the ulaw modification I needed to make...  I got lucky with this one, 
> since they really could not install it without doing special 
> construction, which I managed to avoid paying the big bucks for 
> because the csr was nice about the 3 month delay.  I set it up through
> a panasonic dbs so the secretary can just hit a button, and I get 
> immediate rings on 4 sip phones and my cell.  I would love a PRI, but 
> only need 4 channels max which is why I went with the bri.
> 
> Compared to pots, the isdn is way better.  I also find it much more 
> stable than IP, to the point where it is worth the 1c/minute to use.
> 
> Thanks for the help.
> 
> Greg
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: armin@melware.de [mailto:armin@melware.de]
> Sent: Tuesday, August 16, 2005 2:06 AM
> To: Gregory Wiktor - ADCom Corp.
> Subject: RE: [Asterisk-Users] BRI Hunting, using both channels on one 
> msn
> 
> On ISDN, the second channel is automatically used if the first channel
> is busy.
> Normaly you never get a busy signal, just because ONE channel is busy.
> Only if there is no application/phone available for that MSN, then you
> get busy.
> Or maybe I just don't understand what you are doing...
> 
> Armin
> 
> On Mon, 15 Aug 2005 gw@adcomcorp.com wrote:
> > Well,
> > I want to direct a toll free to my first msn.  The problem is, if 
> > the line is busy a busy signal is returned.  I want the line to hunt
> > to the next channel, so it can be answered on the first msn.
> > 
> > Regards,
> > Greg
> > 
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: armin@melware.de [mailto:armin@melware.de]
> > Sent: Monday, August 15, 2005 3:53 PM
> > To: Gregory Wiktor - ADCom Corp.
> > Cc: asterisk-users@lists.digium.com
> > Subject: Re: [Asterisk-Users] BRI Hunting, using both channels on 
> > one msn
> > 
> > On Mon, 15 Aug 2005 gw@adcomcorp.com wrote:
> > > Hello All,
> > > Has anyone configured bri to answer for only one msn?  In
essence,
> > > when the primary is busy I want to have channel 2 ring.
> > > 
> > > I am using an eicon diva server bri
> > > 
> > > I know I saw it in the windows interface, but don't see it in
the
> > > linux setup.
> > 
> > This is normal behaviour. What exactly is your problem?
> > 
> > Armin
> > 
>

-----Original Message-----
From: armin@melware.de [mailto:armin@melware.de] 
Sent: Saturday, September 24, 2005 2:30 PM
To: Gregory Wiktor - ADCom Corp.
Cc: asterisk-users@lists.digium.com
Subject: RE: [Asterisk-Users] BRI Hunting, using both channels on one
msn

On Fri, 23 Sep 2005 gw@adcomcorp.com wrote:
> Hello Armin,
> I tried your new version of chan capi and it works well.
> 
> I did have one question about capi.conf.  I have a bri with 2 spids, 
> but I want to have the second go to a zap fax channel.
> 
> Right now I can direct it, but the echo canceller is setting up.  Do 
> you know a way to cancel it?  Fax works, but I suspect it would work 
> better with EC off on large faxes.
I don't know enough about the spid stuff, but you should be able to
create two interfaces in capi.conf (instead of one), which devices=1 for
each.
So you should be able to set different settings for each channel.

Ok, I managed to setup two but had devices=1

When using fax via capi with Eicon cards, the echo canceler should not
be used automatically.

This is correct, however when I do it on an analog machine connected to
a zap channel is what I am concerned about.

I managed to also get a local modem to work via the zaptel port, and
connect at 50kps, although asterisk kept mentioning a fax detect while
the modem would connect.
> I tried the capi fax receive, but the images came out with the wrong 
> dimensions(on .05).
Maybe a problem with setting fine/normal resolution?

Turned out to be photoshop, another viewer worked ok.
 
> Also,
> Is there a way to split each msn into a different call group in 
> capi.conf?  I tried a few combinations but no luck.
> I was thinking I could disable the EC for the line in general.
See above.
> Oh as per the hunt, I had verizon program a hunt into the line and it 
> seems to work now.  It is funny though, since I think my usrobotics 
> modem can also do it, I just don't know exactly how it is handled.  
> capi just causes the line to report a busy.
> 
> And there is a new eicon driver that works on 2.6.
Which one do you mean?

The new driver? Came out early sept.  Now the scripts work on debian and
you don't need to manually initialize it.

Armin
 
> Thanks,
> Greg
> -----Original Message-----
> From: armin@melware.de [mailto:armin@melware.de]
> Sent: Tuesday, August 16, 2005 4:49 AM
> To: Gregory Wiktor - ADCom Corp.
> Subject: RE: [Asterisk-Users] BRI Hunting, using both channels on one 
> msn
> 
> Hi Greg,
> 
> now I understand. You use NI-1 with spids. I'm sorry, I don't know 
> anything about this protocol. ETSI does not have this
'channel-problem'.
> 
> Maybe it can be solved with some load parameters for the BRI card.
> You should use the latest driver and divactrl (possibly the SRPM from 
> Eicon).
> 
> regards,
> Armin
> 
> On Tue, 16 Aug 2005 gw@adcomcorp.com wrote:
> >  Hello Armin,
> > My setup is as follows:  I have 1 bri with 2 spid's, or msn's.
> > 2781980 and 2781984.
> > 
> > If a call comes in to 2781980, and is active, and another call comes
> > in to 2781980, the second call will be busy.
> > 
> > A call to 278-1984 will proceed while the 1980 is busy.
> > 
> > The telco tells me though that the bri should be capable of hunting 
> > on
> 
> > it's own.
> > 
> > I did this in the past with modem banks, but they were on top of 
> > centrex.
> > 
> > What I would like to do is put an 800 number to point to the 
> > 278-1980,
> 
> > and for the most part not use the 278-1984 except for maybe a disa.
> > 
> > The eiconctrl monitor app is aware that the line is busy, and I do 
> > not
> 
> > believe it is notifying asterisk of the issue.
> > 
> > I am trying to move some lines to bri since my audio quality on pots
> > has been horrible.  The isdn is great, especially since you told me 
> > of
> 
> > the ulaw modification I needed to make...  I got lucky with this 
> > one, since they really could not install it without doing special 
> > construction, which I managed to avoid paying the big bucks for 
> > because the csr was nice about the 3 month delay.  I set it up 
> > through
> 
> > a panasonic dbs so the secretary can just hit a button, and I get 
> > immediate rings on 4 sip phones and my cell.  I would love a PRI, 
> > but only need 4 channels max which is why I went with the bri.
> > 
> > Compared to pots, the isdn is way better.  I also find it much more 
> > stable than IP, to the point where it is worth the 1c/minute to use.
> > 
> > Thanks for the help.
> > 
> > Greg
> > 
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: armin@melware.de [mailto:armin@melware.de]
> > Sent: Tuesday, August 16, 2005 2:06 AM
> > To: Gregory Wiktor - ADCom Corp.
> > Subject: RE: [Asterisk-Users] BRI Hunting, using both channels on 
> > one msn
> > 
> > On ISDN, the second channel is automatically used if the first 
> > channel
> 
> > is busy.
> > Normaly you never get a busy signal, just because ONE channel is
busy.
> > Only if there is no application/phone available for that MSN, then 
> > you
> 
> > get busy.
> > Or maybe I just don't understand what you are doing...
> > 
> > Armin
> > 
> > On Mon, 15 Aug 2005 gw@adcomcorp.com wrote:
> > > Well,
> > > I want to direct a toll free to my first msn.  The problem is, if
> > > the line is busy a busy signal is returned.  I want the line to 
> > > hunt
> 
> > > to the next channel, so it can be answered on the first msn.
> > > 
> > > Regards,
> > > Greg
> > > 
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: armin@melware.de [mailto:armin@melware.de]
> > > Sent: Monday, August 15, 2005 3:53 PM
> > > To: Gregory Wiktor - ADCom Corp.
> > > Cc: asterisk-users@lists.digium.com
> > > Subject: Re: [Asterisk-Users] BRI Hunting, using both channels on
> > > one msn
> > > 
> > > On Mon, 15 Aug 2005 gw@adcomcorp.com wrote:
> > > > Hello All,
> > > > Has anyone configured bri to answer for only one msn?  In 
> > > > essence,
> 
> > > > when the primary is busy I want to have channel 2 ring.
> > > > 
> > > > I am using an eicon diva server bri
> > > > 
> > > > I know I saw it in the windows interface, but don't see
it in
> > > > the linux setup.
> > > 
> > > This is normal behaviour. What exactly is your problem?
> > > 
> > > Armin
> > > 
> > 
>