Daryl Hunt
2004-Sep-27 13:52 UTC
[Asterisk-Users] Re: Asterisk-Users Digest, Vol 2, Issue 281
Now that most of you have worked overtime to show why most people are continually pissed at Nix Users (all except two of course). The problem I can see is the downright technosnobbery involved. There is nothing wrong with Linux. I play around with RH9 and FreeBSD and find that most things run fine. But you get into a problem where it keeps asking for the same blamed libraries over and over on installations and you know danged well you have them installed. The fire axe starts looking mighty good right about then. Of course, fdisk /mbr works just as well. I have a Windows 2000 Server that's been online continuous for 6 months with no reboot. It stays at less than 7% useage no matter what it is doing and always gives back every ounce of the Ram after a task. It's running on a crappy 400 AMD Processor, has only 512meg of Ram and handles over 2000 Email Accounts on an aftermarket Email Server. (only an idiot uses Microsludges SMTP/POP Server). It's not broke and I don't fix it. Anytime you fiddle with any machine, it's going to need to be rebooted. And this includes Windows and Linux both. Anyone not being able to setup a decent Windows Server needs to run something else or just get used to rebooting. I don't feel that need. Most of what I have read (Ron stated the truth though) is that most have troubles with Windows Servers. Probably due to the fact you monkey with it AFTER it's setup. Of course, the Setup only means running the Windows Server Kernel and not any of the crappy Microsludge Daemons. Like Linux, Windows does not have to accept the garbage that comes in the package. It does take one awhile to find the Daemons that should be kept. When you find it, you gaurd it jealously. Since there are so many attacks on windows systems, we don't even tell you what we really run. But I don't have a single Microsludge Daemon running on ANY of the servers. BTW, Microsoft has a VOIP on the back burner. So don't believe that Nix is the only flavor. It's just that Windows is about 2 years behind on Opensource. So how about let's not do the technosnobbery anymore. It's stupid for both sides. In fact, we all are supposed to be on the same side. Now that I have gone out of MY way to piss off people, now, back to my original question What is a good Client to use on a Windows Machine. Thanks Ron and Nathan. While you didn't help me with the problem, you were quite civil. ------------------------------ From: "Jay Milk" <jay@skimmilk.net> You installed Asterisk on Windows? Could you describe that process for the rest of us; chances are you missed something obvious (like Asterisk's incompatibility with Windows) and maybe what you mean by "install" isn't the same as how others use the word. Heads up though, you're going to need a Linux machine. From: Jay Milk Sent: Monday, September 27, 2004 3:31 PM To: 'Asterisk Users Mailing List - Non-Commercial Discussion' Subject: RE: [Asterisk-Users] Brand New to List, requesting assistance You installed Asterisk on Windows? Could you describe that process for the rest of us; chances are you missed something obvious (like Asterisk's incompatibility with Windows) and maybe what you mean by "install" isn't the same as how others use the word. Heads up though, you're going to need a Linux machine. --------------------------- Taken from Digium's website: "ASTERISKT NOW AVAILABLE FOR MICROSOFTT WINDOWST PLATFORM" http://www.digium.com/index.php?menu=astwind -nathan ------------------------------ Message: 9 Date: Mon, 27 Sep 2004 10:48:23 -0400 From: "Michel R. Vaillancourt" <michel.vaillancourt@webhelp.com> Hello! I am new to both the list and to "*". Can someone direct me to some documentation concerning the reporting tools available for use with "*" as a call-center system? Specifically, things like ACD offer/taken, wrap-time, and such? Thanks very much. This looks like an exciting project. I'm looking forward to playing with it! -- Michel R Vaillancourt Avaya Phone, UNIX Systems & Cansec Security Admin WebHelp/ QDevCo 514-295-1677 ------------------------------ From: "Henry Devito" <hdevito@qwest.net> I believe he is referring to astwind it runs on colinux that is installed on windows. This does no support any hardware yet. So without lines it is useless to me other than for demo purposes.>http://www.digium.com/index.php?menu=astwind -nathan _______________________________________________ Asterisk-Users mailing list Asterisk-Users@lists.digium.com http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users ------------------------------ From: "Chris Shaw" <chriss@watertech.com> mmmmm I can see it now.... The linux kernel having to ask permission from the windows kernel to take over an interrupt... but the windows kernel is too bogged down with a buffer overflow exploit or sending spam to everyone in the universe... Or worse! You're in the middle of a call and windows asks you to restart!! No thank you... I think coLinux is awesome but why in god's name would anyone want to install asterisk on windows??? -Chris ------------------------------ From: "Henry Devito" <hdevito@qwest.net> I agree totally, Windows is more like a virus operating system. I don't believe you will anything from running any linux apps on windows. The way most people envision windows is point and click. But as we all know that is not the case if you are running colinux. It still comes down to file configurations. Even if they were able to get the hardware interrupts handled correctly it would never be as stable as Red Hat or any of the other UX flavors out there. Message: 15 Date: Mon, 27 Sep 2004 10:04:32 -0500 From: "Ron Frederick" <ron@eurexsoftwaresystems.com> Subject: RE: [Asterisk-Users] Brand New to List, requesting assistance To: "Chris Shaw" <chriss@watertech.com>, "Asterisk Users Mailing List - Non-Commercial Discussion" <asterisk-users@lists.digium.com> Message-ID: <KJEFJGPBAGFHAOODMKOCEEDDCPAA.ron@eurexsoftwaresystems.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" From: asterisk-users-bounces@lists.digium.com [mailto:asterisk-users-bounces@lists.digium.com]On Behalf Of Chris Shaw Sent: Monday, September 27, 2004 9:57 AM To: Asterisk Users Mailing List - Non-Commercial Discussion Subject: Re: [Asterisk-Users] Brand New to List, requesting assistance I would only guess that it is the relative ease of setting up something to run on Windows vs. how complex it can be to install on linux. For the average non-linux computer user, getting CVS set up, then getting the source, along with all of the prerequisites, then building the packages, using modprobe, etc. is really quite an undertaking. I run * on linux, but if I were not familiar with linux, I can certainly see how somebody would be intimidated by undertaking the install on linux. -Ron
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