Hi All, I''m a RoR n00b that has been lurking for a week or so. About two weeks ago I bought the text version of Agile Web Development with Rails. Today, I bought the .pdf version because I run a Sony Notebook and find a .pdf more user friendly. Therefore I have the text to give away for free. If anyone in the continental US would like the copy please let me know and I''ll mail it out. Adler -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://wrath.rubyonrails.org/pipermail/rails/attachments/20051231/e5b686a9/attachment.html
On 12/30/05, der Adler <der.az.adler@gmail.com> wrote:> Hi All, > > I''m a RoR n00b that has been lurking for a week or so. About two weeks ago > I bought the text version of Agile Web Development with Rails. Today, I > bought the .pdf version because I run a Sony Notebook and find a .pdf more > user friendly. Therefore I have the text to give away for free. If anyone in > the continental US would like the copy please let me know and I''ll mail it > out.I would be happy to take you up on that gracious offer. My current residence is in Canada, could I pay extra shipping to have it sent there? -- Mike
Isn''t re-distribution of the PDF illegal? -- Posted via http://www.ruby-forum.com/.
He offered to give away the physical version, not the digital version. On 1/2/06, Rick <willirl@gmail.com> wrote:> Isn''t re-distribution of the PDF illegal? > > -- > Posted via http://www.ruby-forum.com/. > _______________________________________________ > Rails mailing list > Rails@lists.rubyonrails.org > http://lists.rubyonrails.org/mailman/listinfo/rails >
Peter Dekkers
2006-Jan-02 18:07 UTC
[Rails] Re: Free "Agile Web Development with Rails" Text
der Adler wrote:> Hi All, > > I''m a RoR n00b that has been lurking for a week or so. About two weeks > ago I bought the text version of Agile Web Development with Rails. > Today, I bought the .pdf version because I run a Sony Notebook and find > a .pdf more user friendly. Therefore I have the text to give away for > free. If anyone in the continental US would like the copy please let me > know and I''ll mail it out. > > Adler > >> Isn''t re-distribution of the PDF illegal? >>Yes, I''m quite sure it is, actually. Good book, though. -- Posted via http://www.ruby-forum.com/.
billfly3@comcast.net
2006-Jan-02 18:16 UTC
[Rails] Re: Free "Agile Web Development with Rails" Text
Adler, If you don''t have a taker yet, I''ll take it off your hands! Thanks, Bill billfly@programmer.net -------------- Original message -------------- From: Peter Dekkers <ruby-forum.com@editkid.com>> der Adler wrote: > > > Hi All, > > > > I''m a RoR n00b that has been lurking for a week or so. About two weeks > > ago I bought the text version of Agile Web Development with Rails. > > Today, I bought the .pdf version because I run a Sony Notebook and find > > a .pdf more user friendly. Therefore I have the text to give away for > > free. If anyone in the continental US would like the copy please let me > > know and I''ll mail it out. > > > > Adler > > > >> Isn''t re-distribution of the PDF illegal? > >> > > Yes, I''m quite sure it is, actually. Good book, though. > > > -- > Posted via http://www.ruby-forum.com/. > _______________________________________________ > Rails mailing list > Rails@lists.rubyonrails.org > http://lists.rubyonrails.org/mailman/listinfo/rails-------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://wrath.rubyonrails.org/pipermail/rails/attachments/20060102/6a4e3f93/attachment.html
Rick, I was talking about the textbook. It will be going to the first person that asked for it. Adler -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://wrath.rubyonrails.org/pipermail/rails/attachments/20060102/9c37e5a1/attachment.html
On Monday 02 January 2006 01:07 pm, Peter Dekkers wrote:> der Adler wrote: > > Hi All, > > > > I''m a RoR n00b that has been lurking for a week or so. About two weeks > > ago I bought the text version of Agile Web Development with Rails. > > Today, I bought the .pdf version because I run a Sony Notebook and find > > a .pdf more user friendly. Therefore I have the text to give away for > > free. If anyone in the continental US would like the copy please let me > > know and I''ll mail it out. > > > > Adler > > > >> Isn''t re-distribution of the PDF illegal? > > Yes, I''m quite sure it is, actually. Good book, though.It''s possible that he means he got the PDF plus BoundBook deal from Practical Programmers, and he wants to give away the (paid for) bound book. I believe that would be legal. If he means he''s going to print the .pdf and give it away, that''s illegal. SteveT -- Steve Litt Author: * Universal Troubleshooting Process courseware * Troubleshooting Techniques of the Successful Technologist * Rapid Learning: Secret Weapon of the Successful Technologist Webmaster * Troubleshooters.Com * http://www.troubleshooters.com (Legal Disclaimer) Follow these suggestions at your own risk.
On 12/30/05, der Adler <der.az.adler@gmail.com> wrote: and I edited a bit...> About two weeks ago I bought the text > version of Agile Web Development with Rails> Today, I bought the .pdf version> Therefore I have the text to give away for free.I think it''s safe to conclude that ''text'' can be replaced with ''print'' (or ''book'', or ''dead tree'', or whatever you prefer). -- Bill Guindon (aka aGorilla) The best answer to most questions is "it depends".
Hi All, I was in fact referring to the physical textbook. I bought the book, then the .pdf. Since I had both I thought I''d donate the text to another RoR n00b like myself. I plan on sending it to a poster in CA, who responded to my offer. I hope this clears this all up. Adler -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://wrath.rubyonrails.org/pipermail/rails/attachments/20060102/3a1085a9/attachment.html
kishor silver
2006-Jan-21 14:42 UTC
[Rails] Re: Free "Agile Web Development with Rails" Text
der Adler wrote:> Hi All, > > I''m a RoR n00b that has been lurking for a week or so. About two weeks > ago I bought the text version of Agile Web Development with Rails. > Today, I bought the .pdf version because I run a Sony Notebook and find > a .pdf more user friendly. Therefore I have the text to give away for > free. If anyone in the continental US would like the copy please let me > know and I''ll mail it out. > > Adlerhi adler i need one copy of the .pdf book if possible. would you send me on my email id it is :kishor_sil@yahoo.com,smkalavadia@yahoo.co.in we are working on one of project in ruby on rails. and if you have other type of documentation regarding ruby on rails which will be helpful to us,so plz send,we are student and we are working on ruby project i am from india your thankfully, -- Posted via http://www.ruby-forum.com/.
Keith Lancaster
2006-Jan-21 14:50 UTC
[Rails] Re: Free "Agile Web Development with Rails" Text
kishor silver wrote:> der Adler wrote: >> Hi All, >> >> I''m a RoR n00b that has been lurking for a week or so. About two weeks >> ago I bought the text version of Agile Web Development with Rails. >> Today, I bought the .pdf version because I run a Sony Notebook and find >> a .pdf more user friendly. Therefore I have the text to give away for >> free. If anyone in the continental US would like the copy please let me >> know and I''ll mail it out. >> >> Adler > > hi adler i need one copy of the .pdf book if possible. would you send me > on my email id it is > :kishor_sil@yahoo.com,smkalavadia@yahoo.co.in > we are working on one of project in ruby on rails. > and if you have other type of documentation regarding ruby on rails > which will be helpful to us,so plz send,we are student and we are > working on ruby project > i am from india > your thankfully,Kishor, With all due respect, you are asking for a stolen copy of the book. Buy it. Period. -- Posted via http://www.ruby-forum.com/.
Martin Marinschek
2006-Jan-21 14:54 UTC
[Rails] Re: Free "Agile Web Development with Rails" Text
A student from india ;) Now it''s still illegal to send him the pdf-version, but maybe Dave and David will give him a copy for free ;) ? regards, Martin On 1/21/06, kishor silver <kishor_sil@yahoo.com> wrote:> der Adler wrote: > > Hi All, > > > > I''m a RoR n00b that has been lurking for a week or so. About two weeks > > ago I bought the text version of Agile Web Development with Rails. > > Today, I bought the .pdf version because I run a Sony Notebook and find > > a .pdf more user friendly. Therefore I have the text to give away for > > free. If anyone in the continental US would like the copy please let me > > know and I''ll mail it out. > > > > Adler > > hi adler i need one copy of the .pdf book if possible. would you send me > on my email id it is > :kishor_sil@yahoo.com,smkalavadia@yahoo.co.in > we are working on one of project in ruby on rails. > and if you have other type of documentation regarding ruby on rails > which will be helpful to us,so plz send,we are student and we are > working on ruby project > i am from india > your thankfully, > > -- > Posted via http://www.ruby-forum.com/. > _______________________________________________ > Rails mailing list > Rails@lists.rubyonrails.org > http://lists.rubyonrails.org/mailman/listinfo/rails >-- http://www.irian.at Your JSF powerhouse - JSF Consulting, Development and Courses in English and German Professional Support for Apache MyFaces
just because you have the PDF doesn''t mean you can give it away for free. Anyone who wants the books should support the Pragmatic Programmers and buy a copy. ed On 1/21/06, kishor silver <kishor_sil@yahoo.com> wrote:> > der Adler wrote: > > Hi All, > > > > I''m a RoR n00b that has been lurking for a week or so. About two weeks > > ago I bought the text version of Agile Web Development with Rails. > > Today, I bought the .pdf version because I run a Sony Notebook and find > > a .pdf more user friendly. Therefore I have the text to give away for > > free. If anyone in the continental US would like the copy please let me > > know and I''ll mail it out. > > > > Adler > > hi adler i need one copy of the .pdf book if possible. would you send me > on my email id it is > :kishor_sil@yahoo.com,smkalavadia@yahoo.co.in > we are working on one of project in ruby on rails. > and if you have other type of documentation regarding ruby on rails > which will be helpful to us,so plz send,we are student and we are > working on ruby project > i am from india > your thankfully, > > -- > Posted via http://www.ruby-forum.com/. > _______________________________________________ > Rails mailing list > Rails@lists.rubyonrails.org > http://lists.rubyonrails.org/mailman/listinfo/rails >-------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://wrath.rubyonrails.org/pipermail/rails/attachments/20060121/91000a17/attachment-0001.html
If you decide not to send to Mike in Canada, I''d be interested in the book. Either way, very kind of you. Nate -- Posted via http://www.ruby-forum.com/.
Steve Eichert
2006-Jan-21 17:42 UTC
[Rails] Re: Free "Agile Web Development with Rails" Text
I''ve found the best place to get the book is here: http://www.pragmaticprogrammer.com/titles/rails/ I''m sure the authors will think it''s very kind of you to get it from the appropriate place :) On 1/21/06, Nate Drake <ndrake@gmail.com> wrote:> > If you decide not to send to Mike in Canada, I''d be interested in the > book. Either way, very kind of you. > > Nate > > -- > Posted via http://www.ruby-forum.com/. > _______________________________________________ > Rails mailing list > Rails@lists.rubyonrails.org > http://lists.rubyonrails.org/mailman/listinfo/rails >-------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://wrath.rubyonrails.org/pipermail/rails/attachments/20060121/63356fbb/attachment.html
Vamsee Kanakala
2006-Jan-23 06:58 UTC
[Rails] Re: Free "Agile Web Development with Rails" Text
Martin Marinschek wrote:>A student from india ;) > > >I have always wondered why none of the Pragmatic books are available in India. Virtually every major book publisher (O''Reilly, Pearson, Addison-Wesley, Prentice-Hall, etc) sell cut-price versions for the Indian market (normally printed in India, so the cost works out very cheap). A lot of people keep asking me for books when I speak about RoR, I have no answer, because I had to badger my cousin living in the US to buy me a copy. Not everyone can do that, right? Vamsee.
Warren Noronha
2006-Jan-23 07:40 UTC
[Rails] Re: Free "Agile Web Development with Rails" Text
On 22-Jan-06, at 10:58 PM, Vamsee Kanakala wrote:> Martin Marinschek wrote: > >> A student from india ;) > I have always wondered why none of the Pragmatic books are > available in India. Virtually every major book publisher (O''Reilly, > Pearson, Addison-Wesley, Prentice-Hall, etc) sell cut-price > versions for the Indian market (normally printed in India, so the > cost works out very cheap). > > A lot of people keep asking me for books when I speak about RoR, I > have no answer, because I had to badger my cousin living in the US > to buy me a copy. Not everyone can do that, right?I would say this was a issue for me when Pragmatic Programmer just released the first Pickaxe book, but since then a lot has changed. I got my self the pdf as soon as it was released, and the same for agile web development ( did not like this much since its too newbieish ). Coming back to the point, just get the pdf, and in 10 mins you will have a copy :) Dave and Andy, have partnered with Amazon and O''Reilly, so you can contact those companies directly to get you a hard copy if you want one too.. Best Regards, Warren Noronha. GNU (http://www.gnu.org.in)
Dave Thomas
2006-Jan-23 16:30 UTC
[Rails] Re: Free "Agile Web Development with Rails" Text
On Jan 23, 2006, at 12:58 AM, Vamsee Kanakala wrote:> I have always wondered why none of the Pragmatic books are > available in India. Virtually every major book publisher (O''Reilly, > Pearson, Addison-Wesley, Prentice-Hall, etc) sell cut-price > versions for the Indian market (normally printed in India, so the > cost works out very cheap). > > A lot of people keep asking me for books when I speak about RoR, I > have no answer, because I had to badger my cousin living in the US > to buy me a copy. Not everyone can do that, right?We''re negotiating with an Indian publisher to have LPEs produced. The Rails book won''t be in the first set of books that get released (it was too new at the time), but if the market works out, you''ll see more and more of our titles there. Regards Dave
> We''re negotiating with an Indian publisher to have LPEs produced. The > Rails book won''t be in the first set of books that get released (it > was too new at the time), but if the market works out, you''ll see > more and more of our titles there.That sounds really exciting. I am a student in India. I was able to purchase the Rails book, by asking permission to use a friend''s credit card. It was expensive for me, but I felt it was worth it, since I had seen the Rails tutorials, and Rails just felt right. I followed up by purchasing books on Ruby, Subversion and Ajax. The cost pinched, but what I''ve learnt is worth it. I''m working on paying of my student loan, and am using Rails for a project of mine, and plan on using it for several more projects in the future. I''m just waiting for my webhost to start supporting Rails. Perhaps in a year! :-) Arpan -- Posted via http://www.ruby-forum.com/.
Vamsee Kanakala
2006-Jan-24 05:11 UTC
[Rails] Re: Free "Agile Web Development with Rails" Text
Dave Thomas wrote:> We''re negotiating with an Indian publisher to have LPEs produced. The > Rails book won''t be in the first set of books that get released (it > was too new at the time), but if the market works out, you''ll see > more and more of our titles there.Woohoo. Thanks Dave. I hope the Rails book follows very soon! Vamsee.
Corey Lawson
2006-Jan-24 07:24 UTC
[Rails] Re: Free "Agile Web Development with Rails" Text
<i>just because you have the PDF doesn''t mean you can give it away for free</i> actually, yes it does. They''re two separate publications. There is nothing preventing someone from doing what they want to with the physical book if they decide that the PDF version meets their needs. Owning the PDF is not predicated on owning the book or vice versa. Nor would there really be any restriction per se of someone disposing of their PDF versions (resale, giveaway) if they destroyed the copies on their computers. But, since the PDFs are personalized to the purchaser, if the person you transfer your PDF to posts copies of it on bittorrent, say, then factor in that there will be lots of PDF files on the Net with *your* name on them... On 1/21/06, ed theman <bassnode@gmail.com> wrote:> > just because you have the PDF doesn''t mean you can give it away for free. > Anyone who wants the books should support the Pragmatic Programmers and buy > a copy. > > ed > > On 1/21/06, kishor silver <kishor_sil@yahoo.com> wrote: > > > > der Adler wrote: > > > Hi All, > > > > > > I''m a RoR n00b that has been lurking for a week or so. About two weeks > > > ago I bought the text version of Agile Web Development with Rails. > > > Today, I bought the .pdf version because I run a Sony Notebook and > > find > > > a .pdf more user friendly. Therefore I have the text to give away for > > > free. If anyone in the continental US would like the copy please let > > me > > > know and I''ll mail it out. > > > > > > Adler > > > > hi adler i need one copy of the .pdf book if possible. would you send me > > on my email id it is > > :kishor_sil@yahoo.com,smkalavadia@yahoo.co.in > > we are working on one of project in ruby on rails. > > and if you have other type of documentation regarding ruby on rails > > which will be helpful to us,so plz send,we are student and we are > > working on ruby project > > i am from india > > your thankfully, > > > > -- > > Posted via http://www.ruby-forum.com/. > > _______________________________________________ > > Rails mailing list > > Rails@lists.rubyonrails.org > > http://lists.rubyonrails.org/mailman/listinfo/rails > > > > > _______________________________________________ > Rails mailing list > Rails@lists.rubyonrails.org > http://lists.rubyonrails.org/mailman/listinfo/rails > > >-------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://wrath.rubyonrails.org/pipermail/rails/attachments/20060124/d41b302b/attachment.html
Dave Thomas
2006-Jan-25 03:44 UTC
[Rails] Re: Free "Agile Web Development with Rails" Text
On Jan 24, 2006, at 1:24 AM, Corey Lawson wrote:> <i>just because you have the PDF doesn''t mean you can give it away > for free</i> > > actually, yes it does. They''re two separate publications.I believe the original poster meant "you can''t give it away to multiple people for free." Substitute "may not" for "can not" and the statement is true. Our unique scheme of selling non-DRM''d books is predicated on our readers being fair and responsible--clearly the model breaks down if lots of folks pirate the books to others. So far our readers have been wonderful, and the PDFs remain unrestricted. Thank you for that Dave
Bruce Balmer
2006-Jan-25 05:21 UTC
[Rails] Re: Free "Agile Web Development with Rails" Text
Dave: You have probably heard this a couple of thousand times, but AWDWR is a great book. Its worth 10x the price (funny what books sell for). The fact that I could get it as a PDF was just awesome. It''s cheaper, saves trees, lighter when I travel, faster to search... well, I''m sure you know the list and that''s why you came up with the idea. Anyhow...summary: Thanks. I hope you author MANY more. And as for people trying to grab stuff for free, you know, it just doesn''t work (for the people who don''t pay). I am an author and used to give courses on extreme human performance. Some people would try to rip off my stuff. The problem was that if they valued it, they would happily pay for it and if they would not pay for it, they could never use it. All progress requires work. The attempt to get things without paying becomes endemic in an individuals character and prevents them from getting anywhere with what they have stolen. I wrote that not to you, but to whoever else might be reading it. I''m sure that most of the people on this list are easily smart enough to appreciate and pay for fine, quality work. As I once wrote in the front of a book of mine which people often borrowed "This book is my property. Thus, I invite you to return my book and grow as a person. Honesty is its own reward, whose depths are boundless. " Bruce PS. For those of you reading this who think I might be dumb - I am not referring to crime not paying as in "money" but rather in a more profound sense that that. People acquire money to be happy but those who try to receive more than they give, never do become happy. A curious fact, that one and a fact much overlooked. On 24-Jan-06, at 8:44 PM, Dave Thomas wrote:> > On Jan 24, 2006, at 1:24 AM, Corey Lawson wrote: > >> <i>just because you have the PDF doesn''t mean you can give it away >> for free</i> >> >> actually, yes it does. They''re two separate publications. > > I believe the original poster meant "you can''t give it away to > multiple people for free." Substitute "may not" for "can not" and > the statement is true. > > Our unique scheme of selling non-DRM''d books is predicated on our > readers being fair and responsible--clearly the model breaks down > if lots of folks pirate the books to others. > > So far our readers have been wonderful, and the PDFs remain > unrestricted. > > > Thank you for that > > > > Dave > _______________________________________________ > Rails mailing list > Rails@lists.rubyonrails.org > http://lists.rubyonrails.org/mailman/listinfo/rails
Bruce Balmer wrote:> Dave: > > You have probably heard this a couple of thousand times, but AWDWR is > a great book. Its worth 10x the price (funny what books sell for). The > fact that I could get it as a PDF was just awesome. It''s cheaper, > saves trees, lighter when I travel, faster to search... well, I''m sure > you know the list and that''s why you came up with the idea. > Anyhow...summary: Thanks. I hope you author MANY more. > > And as for people trying to grab stuff for free, you know, it just > doesn''t work (for the people who don''t pay). I am an author and used > to give courses on extreme human performance. Some people would try to > rip off my stuff. The problem was that if they valued it, they would > happily pay for it and if they would not pay for it, they could never > use it. All progress requires work. The attempt to get things without > paying becomes endemic in an individuals character and prevents them > from getting anywhere with what they have stolen. > > I wrote that not to you, but to whoever else might be reading it. I''m > sure that most of the people on this list are easily smart enough to > appreciate and pay for fine, quality work. > > As I once wrote in the front of a book of mine which people often borrowed > > "This book is my property. Thus, I invite you to return my book and > grow as a person. Honesty is its own reward, whose depths are boundless. " > > Bruce > > PS. For those of you reading this who think I might be dumb - I am not > referring to crime not paying as in "money" but rather in a more > profound sense that that. People acquire money to be happy but those > who try to receive more than they give, never do become happy. A > curious fact, that one and a fact much overlooked. > > > > > > On 24-Jan-06, at 8:44 PM, Dave Thomas wrote: > >> >> On Jan 24, 2006, at 1:24 AM, Corey Lawson wrote: >> >>> <i>just because you have the PDF doesn''t mean you can give it away >>> for free</i> >>> >>> actually, yes it does. They''re two separate publications. >> >> >> I believe the original poster meant "you can''t give it away to >> multiple people for free." Substitute "may not" for "can not" and the >> statement is true. >> >> Our unique scheme of selling non-DRM''d books is predicated on our >> readers being fair and responsible--clearly the model breaks down if >> lots of folks pirate the books to others. >> >> So far our readers have been wonderful, and the PDFs remain >> unrestricted. >> >> >> Thank you for that >> >> >> >> DaveI would much rather pay the author directly for a PDF than buy a book and also pay the printing company, shipping company, distributor, shop etc. If the author of ''agile web development with rails'' agree''s please contact me directly. Regards Neil.
der Adler wrote:> Hi All, > > I''m a RoR n00b that has been lurking for a week or so. About two weeks > ago I bought the text version of Agile Web Development with Rails. > Today, I bought the .pdf version because I run a Sony Notebook and find > a .pdf more user friendly. Therefore I have the text to give away for > free. If anyone in the continental US would like the copy please let me > know and I''ll mail it out. > > AdlerI cannot believe how many people read this, thought you were offering to give away the .pdf version, and then commented. Reading for detail must no longer be taught.... -- Posted via http://www.ruby-forum.com/.
Jarkko Laine
2006-Jan-26 08:09 UTC
[Rails] Re: Free "Agile Web Development with Rails" Text
On 26.1.2006, at 2.09, Neil Dugan wrote:> > I would much rather pay the author directly for a PDF than buy a > book and also pay the printing company, shipping company, > distributor, shop etc. > > If the author of ''agile web development with rails'' agree''s please > contact me directly.Neil, You can buy the pdf version of AWDwR from http:// www.pragmaticprogrammers.com -- Jarkko Laine http://jlaine.net http://odesign.fi