Hello, all. I want to run VMWare on my dom0, for those special occasions when I need to boot unmodified OSes. I found some messages from 2005 on this list that explained that it''s not possible to run VMWare on a xen host. (Example message pasted below..) Well, it''s 2007 now.. Is it possible yet? Before you ask, no, I don''t have hardware support for virtualization. (If I did, I wouldn''t need VMWare.) I think that VMWare inside xen would be a very versatile setup... If it can''t be done, is there some other setup that might provide similar functionality? Thanks, cheers, --Dave Loyall p.s. I''m not subscribed to your list.. CC me, if you please.>>>Date: Tue, 31 May 2005 00:20:01 +0100 From: Steven Hand <Steven.Hand@...> Subject: Re: [Xen-users] vmware inside Xen [snip] vmware (workstation) includes a linux kernel module - this runs inside the linux kernel in "ring 0" and uses this fact to provide its virtualization functionality. With Xen, only Xen itself runs in ring 0 - even dom0 runs in ring 1, and so cannot provide this functionality. cheers, S.>>>_______________________________________________ Xen-users mailing list Xen-users@lists.xensource.com http://lists.xensource.com/xen-users
On Thu, Apr 19, 2007 at 04:51:54AM -0500, David Loyall wrote:> > I want to run VMWare on my dom0, for those special occasions when I > need to boot unmodified OSes. > > Well, it''s 2007 now.. Is it possible yet? Before you ask, no, I > don''t have hardware support for virtualization. (If I did, I wouldn''t > need VMWare.)No.> I think that VMWare inside xen would be a very versatile setup... If > it can''t be done, is there some other setup that might provide similar > functionality?qemu without the kqemu-accelerator module should provide something similiar, but its going to be slow. Searching this list for more informations should bring up some explanations. Christian _______________________________________________ Xen-users mailing list Xen-users@lists.xensource.com http://lists.xensource.com/xen-users
> I want to run VMWare on my dom0, for those special occasions when I > need to boot unmodified OSes. > > I found some messages from 2005 on this list that explained that it''s > not possible to run VMWare on a xen host. (Example message pasted > below..) > > Well, it''s 2007 now.. Is it possible yet? Before you ask, no, I > don''t have hardware support for virtualization. (If I did, I wouldn''t > need VMWare.)Sorry; still not possible. However, see below for alternatives...> I think that VMWare inside xen would be a very versatile setup... If > it can''t be done, is there some other setup that might provide similar > functionality?Win4Lin officially support running inside a Xen VM, I believe. Their product is a modified version of Qemu, which you could just run inside a Xen VM directly. I''ve occasionally toyed with the idea of trying to make this sort of setup a bit easier to configure... maybe I should revisit this and see how feasible it would be. Kqemu will not work in a paravirt domU for the same reasons that VMware won''t (need to run in ring0). Cheers, Mark> Thanks, cheers, > > --Dave Loyall > p.s. I''m not subscribed to your list.. CC me, if you please. > > > Date: Tue, 31 May 2005 00:20:01 +0100 > From: Steven Hand <Steven.Hand@...> > Subject: Re: [Xen-users] vmware inside Xen > [snip] > vmware (workstation) includes a linux kernel module - this > runs inside the linux kernel in "ring 0" and uses this fact > to provide its virtualization functionality. With Xen, only > Xen itself runs in ring 0 - even dom0 runs in ring 1, and so > cannot provide this functionality. > > cheers, > > S. > > > _______________________________________________ > Xen-users mailing list > Xen-users@lists.xensource.com > http://lists.xensource.com/xen-users-- Dave: Just a question. What use is a unicyle with no seat? And no pedals! Mark: To answer a question with a question: What use is a skateboard? Dave: Skateboards have wheels. Mark: My wheel has a wheel! _______________________________________________ Xen-users mailing list Xen-users@lists.xensource.com http://lists.xensource.com/xen-users
Hello,- ...>- > Kqemu will not work in a paravirt domU for the same reasons that > VMware won''t- > (need to run in ring0).Please tell, can kqemu run in Xen domO, not in domU? -- WBR, i.m.chubin _______________________________________________ Xen-users mailing list Xen-users@lists.xensource.com http://lists.xensource.com/xen-users
> > Kqemu will not work in a paravirt domU for the same reasons that > > VMware won''t- > > (need to run in ring0). > > Please tell, > can kqemu run in Xen domO, not in domU?It won''t run in dom0 either I''m afraid; again, this is because the dom0 kernel does not run in ring0, which kqemu expects. Cheers, Mark -- Dave: Just a question. What use is a unicyle with no seat? And no pedals! Mark: To answer a question with a question: What use is a skateboard? Dave: Skateboards have wheels. Mark: My wheel has a wheel! _______________________________________________ Xen-users mailing list Xen-users@lists.xensource.com http://lists.xensource.com/xen-users